Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
i think your missing my point liblam
i agree with much of what your saying but i do not think you know what a man of super consciousness is??
if you did you would not have said "is this any different than any other form of consciousness"?
Right, but it is just a label. You can call it "hyper-consciousness" or "super-duper funky consciousness" but it still is what it is. We are all
at different levels of awareness, and therefore consciousness. We're all consciousness, but some aren't even self-aware or self-conscious like
trees, or rocks... which are on the lowest level of consciousness... level of matter.
All I'm saying is... to know what something is doesn't require you to have a name for it (like super-consciousness) etc. And yes, I think you
understand what I'm saying (based from the stuff you said below).
subjectivity and relativity no longer exist for the man of super consciouness ....he knows that it is nothing more than the delusion of the
phantasmagoric three dimensional universe.
Right and wrong don't exist in an objective sense, period. If this entity chooses to be objective, then yes right and wrong won't exist. It's
really that simple, as when you choose to be subjective, you pretend that certain things are universally true, when in reality they are simply your
personal judgements which do not exist objectively, until the person makes them.
He is beyond right or wrong ,he is liberated,he is illuminated,he has reached the goal,he is beyond the vibarational realm,he is in the vibrationless
realm and he is one
unfortuantely i or you are not there yet
We are where we are! It's not unfortunate, in my view, because we are where we FIT.. where we BELONG. You cannot take a 3rd grader and shove him in
10th grade - he'll fail miserably and be forced to return. We can LEARN the lessons of this realm and then move on, AFTER the lessons have been
learned, and not until then.
There are many forms of consciousness
i could go over the finer points of swimming with the instructor but if i dont jump in and swim what do i really know...Do i know how to
swim...no....i could talk endlessly about all the different ways to swim and all the finer points of adjusting the stroke and breathing...but if i
dont know how to swim....what do i really know.
i will tell you something liblam that i dont usually tell people...i have touched that vibrationless realm...and i dont mean physically
touched.....you would ask how do you know you did?
Well actually I'd ask what is a vibrationless realm, and WHY you think it's vibrationless. Then I'd ask what makes a realm vibrational or not - why
is our level vibrational as opposed to the other one? Could it be just higher vibrations, and not a complete LACK of vibrations? And then I'd have to
ask, vibrations of WHAT anyway? What medium is vibrating? Reality itself?
I don't expect you to be able to answer those, I'm just stating that this is what I'd ask, and then try to find out if I can..
and i would say .....did you ever just know something for sure? if you told me no....i would say one day you will my friend....
Not "just" know, as I like to know what the source of any knowledge is. There is a difference between KNOWLEDGE and INFORMATION. Just cuz someone
tells you something, doesn't make it knowledge.. just makes it information that you can consider until you can ascertain if it's true or not.
All I'd advise is just be careful what you think you KNOW, some stuff can be intentionally-induced illusions by beings from higher levels of
awareness.. or just self-created delusions because it makes one feel good to believe something, or otherwise.
For example, religious people think they "JUST KNOW" their religions to be true, because they say they "feel" their God and that this verifies the
truth. Now, I can use logical deduction and evidence to the contrary to KNOW that many things in religions are LIES.. the same lies that religious
people think they KNOW because they feel their truth from some "God".
They do not like the idea that GOD just means all that exists, that there is NOTHING that isn't God, as he's not some entity - God is just another
word for EVERYTHING. Can you sit there and FEEL everything? Well, you can be ONE with everything and be aware of this, but not on our level. Do I KNOW
what I just said to be true? Yes, and I don't need to "just know" it, as I logically and analytically understand this... including from experience
and evidence of other things being said about what "God" being proven false.
Remember, we only see that which we choose to see. No amount of logic that demonstrates the obvious falsity of someone's beliefs will even scratch
the paint if those people do not choose to SEE this truth...
So to wrap this up, I advise caution before you conclude that you really know something... if it's not based on any reasoning or understanding...
(this is just in genereral, for anything..). And even if it IS based on same, does this GUARANTEE its truth? Being 99.99% sure does leave that 0.01%
chance that you're dead WRONG. I like to work with probabilities, and to avoid anticipation/expectation/assumptions and beliefs.