Can a real Lightsaber be Made?, page 3
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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 07:21 PM by Logic616
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Let's talk lightsabers. Ah, lightsabers. When I first saw Star Wars, I was 17 years old, and I thought they were laser beams. But that doesn't make any sense because a laser beam wouldn't come to a point after a few feet. Also, the laser wouldn't be visible unless there was a lot of dust in the air to scatter light and illuminate the beam. Plus, laser lightsabers would pass through each other like flashlight beams, which wouldn’t make for a very fun fight. So I think plasma is a better candidate. This ionized gas is made by lightning, is what the sun's made out of, and is even used in plasma TVs. You can contain plasma using electric and magnetic fields, which exert inward pressure to match the plasma's outward pressure. This means you could make different shapes, like a lightsaber–esque cylinder. But there are some problems: You couldn't create a tip, and plasma would leak and vaporize the skin off Luke Skywalker's hands. And as with a laser, you couldn't fit all the necessary machinery to generate the plasma into a sword handle. Plus, the beam would need to be millions of degrees and far denser, in terms of energy, than anything we have now. But if somehow you could do all that, sure enough, the lightsaber would cut through metal and bone. The fields containing plasma would repel other lightsabers, so they would work like what you see, except it would radiate a great deal of heat, about as much of the sun. Jedi would have really bad sunburns.


That should about cover it...so, no. 'Tis unfortunate.

[edit on 27-12-2008 by Logic616]


reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 02:12 AM by Unresponsible
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An observation concerning the impossibility of making a functional lightsabre, please forgive me if this appears glib.
30 years ago, the problems would be
a) making a portable laser beam that is hot enough
b) making the beam end at a desired length
c) generating the power required for its function

Today, only b and c are the real issues.
Just sayin'.

Years ago, I encountered an interesting site (which has apparently disappeared into the ethers, unfortunately)
The gist was that if a powerful, dense forcefield could be generated from the handle, then torqued into a very narrow cylindrical shape, you'd effectively have an energetic monomolecular blade.
The glow would be an ionizing effect.
From my understanding though, forcefields like that are still very much science fiction and the problem of power is not solved. But blade length/cut through anything is.

Cheers


reply posted on 27-1-2009 @ 05:12 PM by apex
I may not do physics at university, but I have to point out something on this issue. Why would you need to confine a beam of plasma to a small (1 metre or so) blade anyway? If you could just miniaturise a plasma torch system capable of making a (relatively concentrated, granted) beam that held out for far enough that would surely be all you need, right? Even if it dissipates quickly, if it shoots out of your device fast enough it would get to the required distance anyway. And, it doesn't really matter how refined it is at the end, it's white hot plasma and will cut through anything you decide to use it on (read, some sort of living (well, not for long....) opponent).

And as for the solidity of a lightsaber, why do you want it to be solid to another? That just allows you to be blocked, and all things considered, you don't want it to be on for very long, since it would burn the wielder unless some highly insulating material is worn while using it, and the power source would run out pretty quickly.

And, as for the range issue, it's only Star Wars that uses such a silly weapons doctrine as to suggest that lightsabers could be the only weapon someone would carry. It would be a far more effective last resort weapon, due to it's highly powerful and deadly (for both user and opponent) nature. Perhaps if we are really suggesting such a high level of technology would be obtained, then combined with some sort of advanced stealth technology, it could be useful for espionage or assassination.

Of course, I don't know why I've given this quite so much thought.


reply posted on 11-2-2009 @ 11:06 PM by mattifikation
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They'll let any old anonymous post that comes along get through, won't they?

If a lightsaber were possible with today's technology, we would have them by now. Plus, I am absolutely certain that geeks would have conquered the planet within a few weeks of their introduction. We would know if this had occurred, because they would have replaced all sporting events with "free running."

If we were on the same technological level as the people in Star Wars, we would surely be able to create them. Remember, they are at the level where they can bend space-time, travel through hyperspace, and manipulate gravity. From there, there's really not a whole lot that isn't technologically out of reach.
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