It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Deliberate NORAD US Military StandDown?

page: 2
2
<< 1   >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Sep, 10 2008 @ 09:20 AM
link   
Truth is somebody was punished for the failure to defend American lives and territory at Pearl Harbor on December 7 1941. Two commanding officers were falsely accused and the true traitor in OUR White House, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, escaped off to his bed in Hell without punishment. But there was somebody punished for the incompetence or whatever you call it. Fortunately, do to the efforts of a loyal family and patriotic Americans and Veterans, the names of the officers falsely accused were cleared and we now know who was really responsible.

But in the debacle of the failure to defend America on 9-11-2001, nobody was punished. Not one single person. No investigation of the NORAD failure to do their duty. No investigation of the deliberate lying to Congress and the 9-11 Commission by the Defense Department. In fact the incompetent (or was it traitorous?) commanding officers responsible for failing to defend America with more than adequate time to launch fighter jets, were rewarded and promoted. Whoever ordered the fighters which were finally launched to operate at minimum speed should be punished. The FAA did their job and warned NORAD of the hijackings, and the US Military failed to do anything. The Defense Department openly lied to Congress concerning the actions on 9-11; yet nobody was punished. Instead those responsible were rewarded and promoted. There was a deliberate NORAD US Military StandDown on 9-11.


Reheat
It's now 2008. All of the old false canards in that video were proven wrong in 2003. It might help to make your delusional case if you had something other than lies and fabrications by the idiots in the video that have been thoroughly proven false several years ago.

Really? Because the great Reheat has said so? The Defense Dept lied to the 9-11 Whitewash Commission. Members of the Commission have publicly stated so. The evidence proves so. Incompetence or Treason was rewarded with promotions. This time around we must make the traitors in OUR White House and their fellow perpetrators pay for their treason before they go off to their beds in Hell. They work for us. This is OUR nation; not theirs.




posted on Sep, 10 2008 @ 10:05 AM
link   
reply to post by SPreston
 


Your post is pure junk.

Nowhere in this thread have you established a shred of evidence of a NORAD "stand down". All you have done is rant about your political malcontent, regurgitate false information, and attack me because I have thwarted your attempts to spread your propaganda.

As for your accusations of lying to the 9/11 Commission, once the tapes were reviewed the story actually was better than what was initially erroneous information given to the Commission. So, your accusation that they lied to make themselves look WORSE, is hilarious!

BTW, why has your story changed about the two Generals who were fired after Pearl Harbor? You got caught in a falsehood and now change your story to a new conspiracy.

Not that I'm the least bit interested, but has there ever been a "Conspiracy Theory" that you don't believe?

I just dropped in to say Hi. I'll leave the arguments to others as I'm busy today. Maybe I'll drop in later to see if you've gone back into hiding again because you're too embarrassed to venture out of your usual haunts. Toodle de doo.

[edit on 10-9-2008 by Reheat]



posted on Sep, 10 2008 @ 10:54 AM
link   

TheBobert
Its funny how fanatical your hatred is for Rumsfeld!
You wont even acknowledge him for helping victims at the Pentagon?
I can see having political differences but you piss on him for helping people who are injured?

It was a photo op. It does not take 7 persons to carry a stretcher. In fact the extra persons stumbling over each other endangers the person in the stretcher. Rumsfeld's duty was Secretary of Defense; managing the US military forces and defending America; not carrying stretchers. If 9-11 was truly an attack on America by outside forces, than at the time of the Pentagon attack, there would be no way to tell if the attacks were over. Of course since 9-11 was an INSIDE JOB, Rumsfeld knew the attacks were over and it was photo op time. Dubya was giving photo op after photo op down in Florida during the attacks also, knowing full well the attacks were right on schedule and he was in no danger.

Donald Rumsfeld was the most incompetent Secretary of Defense this nation has ever endured. For proof just look over at the QUAGMIRE war in Iraq called Operation Iraqi Freedom. Rumsfeld sent in insufficient forces to win, ignoring the advice of experienced Generals. Rumsfeld ordered the invading forces to rush on to Baghdad, leaving the many Iraqi ammo dumps unguarded, and freely available for the resupply of enemy forces. In fact these Iraqi Army ammo depots were the primary source for the high-grade military explosives and triggers with which the insurgents built their thousands of IEDs used to kill US soldiers and blow up the many un-armored HummVees Rumsfeld provided them. Rumsfeld mocked the soldiers when they were forced to beg their families to buy them personal armor so they might have a better chance to come home alive. You want me to love this lousy SOB? A lot of OUR kids were blown to bits or died un-necessarily because of this scumbag.

All of the incompetent Architects of War were rewarded; not blamed.
THE ARCHITECTS OF WAR: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

Incompetence or Treason? No effort to evacuate the Pentagon.


Giambastiani and Rumsfeld both went back to their offices to work, keeping their eyes on television sets that showed the World Trade Center in flames.

Undersecretary of Defense Steve Cambone, who was a special assistant to Rumsfeld at the time, came to Giambastiani’s office to discuss the Pentagon as a potential target and their course of action if it was attacked.

Minutes later, at 9:39 a.m., that attack came. Giambastiani heard the explosion in his office, on the far side of the massive Pentagon building, and felt the ground shake. He walked through his doorway toward the secretary’s office, and his eyes met Rumsfeld’s.

As Rumsfeld proceeded directly to the crash site, where he helped first responders triage those injured in the attack, Giambastiani went to the National Military Command Center to prepare it to become the Pentagon’s command post for dealing with the crisis.
www.defenselink.mil...


Apparently, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was sitting in the same third-floor office above the River entrance as every other Secretary of Defense since Louis Johnson in 1949, a location that had been a matter of public record all that time. Was Rummy sleeping at his desk, or just patiently awaiting the explosions going off, so he could go out and read his script for the photo ops and pretend to be dutifully saving lives? Does anybody wonder why actual real living 'hijacker terrorists' would not want to target such a plump juicy target as Rummy the Dummy in his SOD office? Why in the world would they target a half deserted under-construction and reinforced difficult 1st story target on the opposite side when targeting Rummy the Dummy would have been so much easier?

Because they did not.
There were no 'hijacker terrorists'; that's why.
The 9-11 Attack on America was an INSIDE JOB.

Complete 9-11 Timeline

Truth is:
There was a deliberate NORAD US Military StandDown on 9-11.
And those responsible were rewarded and promoted instead of punished.



posted on Sep, 10 2008 @ 11:12 AM
link   
reply to post by SPreston
 


You still didn't answer my question.
Your hatred for Rumsfeld is evident.
Its very apparent it clouds your ability to engage in any real discussion.
LOL ya ok photo op?
That is gotta be the crappiest picture, Rumsfeld better fire his photographer!
Do you live in a trailer in the middle of the desert?



posted on Sep, 10 2008 @ 11:54 AM
link   

heBobert
That is gotta be the crappiest picture, Rumsfeld better fire his photographer!

Actually it was a still frame from a CNN video.
Regardless, it was a photo op meant to insinuate that the SOD was doing his job. How long do you think the guy in the stretcher lay on the ground waiting for the CNN make-up artist to get Rummy the Dummy prepped? These political photo ops have to be done right don't they?

But Rummy the Dummy was not doing his job was he? His job was not carrying stretchers was it? That is normally a job for the grunts isn't it? Important people only do grunt work if there is a desperate need for some good old propaganda. Correct? Isn't that why Dubya the Commander in Chief was doing photo ops in Florida and reading 'My Pet Goat' with the kiddies and doing NOTHING while America was under attack? Some good old propaganda? BS the people a bit more?

The job of Secretary of Defense is managing the nation's military forces and defending the nation against hostile attack. Just like Dubya the Pet Goat Boy in Florida, Rummy the Dummy was more interested in photo ops than defending the nation.

Truth is:
There was a deliberate NORAD US Military StandDown on 9-11.
And those responsible were rewarded and promoted instead of punished.


CNN Presents: America Remembers Part 1 - Aired August 17 2002



posted on Sep, 10 2008 @ 12:34 PM
link   

TheBobert
You still didn't answer my question.


TheBobert's question
So SPreston do you even know whey Rumsfeld was there at the Pentagon that day and the chain of events that led him to help the victims that day?

Apparently Rummy the Dummy was there at the Pentagon for earlier meetings, and after learning of the attacks on the WTC Towers, decided to go up to his desk and sleep until it was time for the photo ops. Of course Rummy the Dummy could safely sleep because he knew the explosives were set over on the opposite side of the Pentagon from his office and he was in no danger. And Rummy the Dummy certainly did not want to warn anybody down in Wedge 1 or evacuate anybody until after the explosives went off. With Rummy the Dummy's penchant for screwing up, sleep was probably the best alternative. Correct?

Perhaps Rummy the Dummy needed to plant the little piece of aircraft debris which said 'American Airlines' on it which he 'found' on the lawn, and which has apparently completely disappeared since. Maybe Rummy the Dummy goofed and it said 'Aloha Airlines' instead and had to be ditched. It seems Rummy the Dummy made up a LIE about pulling budget analyst Paul Gonzalez to safety from the burning wreckage. You just cannot find good help anymore, can you?

Does that answer your question?


According to Officer Aubrey Davis, who is currently accompanying Rumsfeld as his bodyguard, when they reach the site, “There were the flames, and bits of metal all around. The secretary picked up one of the pieces of metal. I was telling him he shouldn’t be interfering with a crime scene when he looked at some inscription on it and said, ‘American Airlines.’” According to Rumsfeld, a person who’d seen the attack on the Pentagon informs him a plane had flown into it. Rumsfeld later recalls, “I saw people on the grass, and we just, we tried to put them in stretchers and then move them out across the grass towards the road and lifted them over a jersey wall so the people on that side could stick them into the ambulances. I was out there for a while, and then people started gathering, and we were able to get other people to do that, to hold IVs for people. There were people lying on the grass with clothes blown off and burns all over them.” Video footage confirms that Rumsfeld helps carry a stretcher at the crash scene.
One report even has him pulling budget analyst Paul Gonzalez to safety from the burning wreckage. However, Gonzalez later offers his own detailed recollections of pulling other people to safety, which fail to involve Rumsfeld in any way.

9-11 Timeline

Truth is:
There was a deliberate NORAD US Military StandDown on 9-11.
And those responsible were rewarded and promoted instead of punished.



new topics

top topics
 
2
<< 1   >>

log in

join