So where is the flag pin on McCain?, page 2
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 05:23 PM by sos37
Originally posted by jhill76
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Uh, it wasn't the pledge of allegiance. It was the star spangled banner. So, that just tells me it was passed onto you, and you are spinning it as truth.

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Democratic presidential contender Sen. Barack Obama is again facing questions about his patriotism from some conservative blogs -- this time for apparently failing to put his hand over his heart during a rendition of the national anthem at an Iowa campaign even


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All right, Star Spangled Banner. My mistake. In both Star Spangled Banner and Pledge of Allegiance, a hand over the heart is the traditional means of honoring what they stand for.


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 10:42 AM by Evisscerator
Originally posted by CaptGizmo
I agree the whole thing was ridicules and childish. I simply wanted to point out the hypocrisy that goes on during this campaign. I know as an American citizen and voter....me personally I am sick and tired of all the hypocrisy and mud slinging.....not a fan of dirty politics.


You two don't have a clue what PATRIOTISM is or what it means. GET a CLUE !!
Obama didn't wear one because he was raised Muslim, had a Muslim advisor at age 25 and is nothing more today than a Wolf in Sheep's clothing. He won't wear one because he HATES America. He isn't proud of it. His wife has recently became "proud" of it. Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. He is not an American. That is the reason he won't wear an American Flag lapel pin.

What is wrong with that picture?

McCain served this country during the Vietnam War. He survived what you wimps would be crying home to mama immediately about. At least he didn't dodge the DRAFT like Bill Clinton did. And my guess is that you two would be draft dodgers by your attitudes about the Freedoms you take for granted. McCain's life is colored Red, White and Blue. He eats, sleeps and breaths America.

Freedom is not FREE. It must be attained with a Price. A price many before you and many after you will have paid. But you wouldn't understand that having not served in the American Armed Forces like McCain and I have.

All I can say is that when the brown stuff hits the fan, and you two are hiding in trash dumpsters, those of us who have served and are not afraid to die for our FREEDOM will do so, while you two are shaking in your shoes. Pray that you develop the courage to stand up when the time comes.

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reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 12:50 PM by Loki
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I don't understand why, the pledge of allegiance is a relic for an era long dead. This isn't the cold war.

Jehova's Witnesses, for example always abstain from even reciting the pledge, let alone placing their hands over their hearts.

I think that we as a Nation have lost the meaning behind the pledge and cling to it simply because it is what we were indoctrinated with as Children. The pledge of allegiance is nothing more than a collection of words to invoke our memory of a country that doesn't exist anymore.


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 01:02 PM by CaptGizmo
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Wow you base my patriotism on a single thread here.Ok I'll play..from your post I would say your belief is that only the candidate you don't approve of should be dissected and looked at and commented upon. As an American citizen it is my duty and right to look at the pros and cons of all candidates and base my decision on that information that comes out not just one side...if everyone did that then we might as well have a Monarchy. If you feel we should not be looking into McCains dealings and his not wearing the pin as well then all I can say is they have streets named after citizens such as yourself.



I appreciate the fact you served this country and I thank you for that.
I also assume from you post that you are a conservative from Texas and are probably Christian as well. I bet you probably think that Bush and company did the right thing INVADING Iraq too and believe him when he said God told him to INVADE Iraq. Here something you should see then and pay special attention to what the words say.

I don't care one way or the other for McCain or Obama as I am not voting for them. So you right wing neocolonialism opinion does not phase me. With Obama I feel he is just to inexperienced at this point maybe next term would better.With McCain...well lets just say he is probably really like this:


Voicemail from McCain to Palin:
www.liveleak.com...


And to be honest this is who I would love to see as President, however that is not going to happen now:

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reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 02:46 PM by DollyDagger
Originally posted by sos37
Originally posted by jhill76
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post by sos37



Uh, it wasn't the pledge of allegiance. It was the star spangled banner. So, that just tells me it was passed onto you, and you are spinning it as truth.

Source Quote:

Democratic presidential contender Sen. Barack Obama is again facing questions about his patriotism from some conservative blogs -- this time for apparently failing to put his hand over his heart during a rendition of the national anthem at an Iowa campaign even


Article


All right, Star Spangled Banner. My mistake. In both Star Spangled Banner and Pledge of Allegiance, a hand over the heart is the traditional means of honoring what they stand for.


yeah thats exactly what it is. Tradition. I myself would put my hand over my heart but if it is something that is purely tradition i do not mind if someone dodges out on it, its what that tradition represents is what is important.


Originally posted by Dronetek

Anyway, McCain has done more than enough to prove his patriotism. No flag needed. He probably just forgot it, or maybe it fell off?


hehe old people

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