The US Democratic Party's obfuscated coronation of Mr Barack Obama as its candidate in November's presidential election was played out to tunes of primordial glory; in contrast the equally rousing call of the Russian Parliament that the breakaway Georgian enclaves of South Ossetia and Abkhazia be recognised as sovereign states is derided as xenophobia. Muslim Kosovo was detached from Orthodox Christian Serbia on the ground of self-determination and declared independent by American and EU decree, with cavalier disregard for Serbian sensitivities and over the vigorous objections of fellow Orthodox friend, Russia. But the elixir of Kosovo becomes hemlock when applied to areas where Western realpolitik affirms territorial integrity as a paramount principle. At such moments one is reminded of the stately Tory MP Edward du Cann striding down the corridors of the House of Commons, when a fellow MP stopped him to ask the time: "What time would you like it to be, old boy," he drawled, casting a languid look at his gold pocket watch. The anti-Russian vitriol over Georgia from America's good and great, products of motley national security think-tanks singing from a common hymn-sheet, says much for the jaundiced eyes of the beholder, there being nothing quite like the malignity of disappointed humanity.

i think you will find that every government, coporation, oragnisaton and person display some form of hypocrisy during their life time.

but this just feels like US bashing... quick everyone on the bandwagon.

USA must be the flavour of the month.

[edit on 2-9-2008 by purplemonkey]

Astonishing US hypocrisy......is this news???

Mind you India isnt too far behind in the hypocrisy stakes.

Originally posted by purplemonkey
i think you will find that every government, coporation, oragnisaton and person display some form of hypocrisy during their life time.

but this just feels like US bashing... quick everyone on the bandwagon.

USA must be the flavour of the month.

[edit on 2-9-2008 by purplemonkey]

Well if they didn't bring it upon themselves by acting in a manner so easy to bash, we wouldn't have such ammunition.

Every government is full of hypocrites.... And it usually involves peoples lives too.


Americas war on terrorism... when not long before Americans were actually funding terrorism against the UK.

Russia recognizing the Ossetia as separate. (Which we complain about even though we 'The UK' did pretty much the same thing with Ireland.)

It happens. We are all hypocritical at some point, but for us, the decision isn't normally as big so we don't notice it.

[edit on 2-9-2008 by umbr45]

Yes, it amazes me how we are so evil here in the US, so, it must be the US that tells the muslim people to stone their women to death, right? And that a loving God wants you to go kill all of the people in the US for being evil, right? I see were up early to start the old hate America ball rolling.

Hypocracy seen in others is the mere reflection of your own which you will not correct.

Originally posted by FiatLux
Yes, it amazes me how we are so evil here in the US, so, it mUS that tells the muslim people to stone their women to death,ust be the right? And that a loving God wants you to go kill all of the people in the US for being evil, right? I see were up early to start the old hate America ball rolling.

well, US supports Islamic regimes like Saudi Arabia etc..
so maybe , indirectly by not criticising them , and always praising Arabia
it gives some extremist muslim right to stone Woman to death....

also ,USA funded islaimists hence it can concluded that:

US that tells the muslim people to stone their women to death

Originally posted by FiatLux
Yes, it amazes me how we are so evil here in the US, so, it must be the US that tells the muslim people to stone their women to death, right? And that a loving God wants you to go kill all of the people in the US for being evil, right? I see were up early to start the old hate America ball rolling.

And yet the British, where many Americans came from, once did exactly the same on much larger scales..... the Crusades anyone?

hypocrisy? meh, small word to describe the state of the world and a mild insult compared to the war crimes evident. the thing is that the US is unlikely to be taken to task over the situation. the truth is, everybody a has the stomach and the resources to invade smaller countries or rape them of their wealth but no-one has the stomach or the resources to stop anybody else doing it.

none of the powers that be are innocent either, nor the people that support them, so we can sit here yelling hypocrisy's all we want, the truth is it just distracts from the lies and the murdering. the US shouldn't have invaded Iraq, Russia shouldn't have invaded Georgia, India has more than one region wishing to gain independence.

while i can sit here, and often do, levelling accusations at the various nations of the world for their various inhumanities i am also painfully aware that i am chucking stones in a glass house.

so i've no problem saying the US is hypocritical, and i've no issue saying it is often inhumane, but to call the US, or any other country, a force for EVIL is to assume that you yourself have the oversight and spotless morality required to judge their actions.

The people of the US are among the most generous in the world.

Originally posted by fmcanarney
The people of the US are among the most generous in the world.

yes, they generously give Aid to allies in form of weapons

hint: israel,Georgia etc..

[edit on 2-9-2008 by manson_322]

And not to you and your cause right?
And aid to disaster relief, food, medicine, books, missionaries, Technology, factories.

Last time I checked, many countries did that.


But they didn't drop 2 atom bobmbs on a country that had already agreed to surrender.

They didn't fund terrorism against a country and then ask said country to help them fight terrorism.

And you don't have a national health service meaning anyone can get the care they need.

Oh and the weapons aid they give...not always so much of an aid when you consider the bill that the UK had to pay for the weapons and vehicles we had to buy during WW2.

[edit on 2-9-2008 by umbr45]

I just went and checked my closet, and my countries closet, and what did I find? Skeletons, yep, I have them and so does my country. Mason, there is a wise man who confronted a group of men who wanted to stone a woman. He said something that not only you, but others need to take to heart, and that is.....

"Let any man here who is without sin, cast the first stone."


Do what I did Mason, go check not only your closet, but your countries as well before bashing someone else.


Edit for an after thought: It seems to me that the people of Islam were stoning their own people long before we showed up.

[edit on 2-9-2008 by FiatLux]