And people wonder why Russia is "disturbed" by actions taken by the U.S.?

Diplomatic approach? How would that go now?


Russia to Georgia: stop this violance immediately, stop killing civilians, stop the ethnic cleansing, stop shooting at our peacekeepers.


Georgia to Russia: we are cutting diplomatic ties with you. Blah blah blah democracy blah blah blah freedom blah blah blah NATO. Now get your diplomats out.


Russia to Georgia: hey we seriously mean it - stop or we will write an angry letter in UN.


Georgia to Russia: *silence*


Russia to Georgia: # this we are going home and cutting all ties with you.


Georgia to Russia: what was that? we are too busy digging mass graves to hear you?


UN: *U.S. veto to any Russian resoltion followed by silence*


US to Saakashvili: good boy here is a carrot and some shovels. Dig those mass graves deep - you don't want hippies digging up anything.




Is that how your diplomatic approach works? Perhaps you would like to explain this diplomatic approach to the people in Tskhinvali. Tell them: "I really don't like violance and mass murder, but all we can do to protect you is send this angry letter to Georgia and hope it doesn't use it for toilet paper".

Originally posted by maloy

Originally posted by wutone
Maybe the Russians shouldn't have treated their neighbors so badly that they would actually approve a U.S. military presence 100 miles away from the Russian border.

How have Russians treated their neighbors exactly? And don't say "invaded" Georgia - the ABM project was in the works long before that.

Waht? Russia's troop occupied neighbor's land but you don't allow people say invade? Saakshvili is an elected president, Georgia is a democratic government. Either Abkhaz or SOettia is Georgian territory, if what Russia did is not invade, what is invade.

Originally posted by maloy

Originally posted by jamie83
I personally think Russia should be more concerned that the U.S. and the rest of Europe is "disturbed" by their actions.

What actions would that be? U.S. and NATO have been creating a buffer zone around Russia since about 1998 - long before Putin came to power. Back then Russia didn't even try to put itself on the global political stage.

And what exactly is Europe or U.S. to be concerned about? NATO has been treating Russia with hostility long before Georgia. In fact part of the reason why Russia intervened in Georgia is because of NATO's advances.

Absurd enough, your neighbor make some friends or even a group of friends so you rush in his house, separate his room?

Originally posted by maloy

Originally posted by jamie83
and don't care if they are upset we signed a missile defense deal with Poland either.

Who are you going to defend Poland from? Iran, as innitially stated? Good luck. I am sure evil gremlins the world over are just waiting to nuke good old Poland.

Russia has said that missile defend system is useless not only once twice but many times. Now what are they afraid of? Poland allowed defend system deployed in their land, what's Russia's problem? Poland also is a part of Russia? US didn't send defend system into Russia, what Russia worry about?

Originally posted by maloy

Originally posted by jamie83
Which brings up another point... if the missile defense "Star Wars" systems supposedly don't work according the Dems, then why does Russia care if we put them in Poland?

Because it is the first step. The next step would be to replace these obsolete systems with new systems. And then add some NATO bases here and there. And then add some offensive missiles.

No equal missiles Russia deployed?

Originally posted by maloy
By your logic why does U.S. care that Russia intervenes in Georgia? Georgia has no oil, and is not the 51st state.

Do you have brain? Poland allowed US to deployed defend system in their land, Georgia didn't. Are you a man who live in earth or come from Mars？

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They are not annexing anything lol.. last I checked they voted to be sovereign and Russia is respecting that...