Who do we want running our country?, page 1


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Topic started on 22-8-2008 @ 03:41 PM by jhill76
It's true that John McCain has been around a long time. But do we really know what he'd do as president? Do we really know who he is?

What concerns me is the pattern of inconsistency. One day he's appeasing, the next he's coarse. One day he makes a flat-out pledge not to raise taxes, the next he says that everything is on the table as far as Social Security is concerned. One day the buck stops here, the next he's not authorized to speak for, ahem, himself. It’s hard to make a clear decision on who we want to vote for.

We have to think about this here, we are not voting for someone to speak for us in student council. We are looking for someone that is going to make sound decisions on anything from health insurance to pressing the red button when tough situations arise that could change the world in a matter of hours.

Now for Barak Obama, he has flip-flopped on issues and to be honest, we can’t be sure on his history. One day he seems as a weak player, and other days, he seems like he has been in it for a while. But, the fact states he has been in this since 1997, at least in major politics. The major flaw with him is his history.

In the past, reporters used to follow US presidential candidates by car or bus, but today with candidates flying from city to city, coverage of the presidential election becoming too expensive for newspapers, with fares up to $2,000 a trip or $30,000 per person a month. This year the only papers that have full-time correspondents following the candidates are The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, Wall Street Journal, and the NY Times. Newsweek is the only publication with a full-time reporter on both McCain's and Obama's trails.

On one hand, US newspapers are diminishing election coverage. On the other, AP has recently hired 21 additional staff to bolster entertainment news. They say that they will provide what sells and as of now, celebrities are what the people want. If you think about it, a lot of people just vote what their mom or dad voted, and don’t make a real clear decision for themselves.

It also doesn’t help with media biased and other people enforcing their own opinion to sway opinion. That’s really what this race is all about, trying to win votes by trying to please everyone. In theory, people would say this is correct, but, you can’t please one group and then try and please another group a week later, you don’t look competent in the overall picture.

It makes you wonder, how do you make a decision with so much misinformation, non-coverage of the important issues, and only two candidates that are iffy?


[edit on 22-8-2008 by jhill76]


reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 04:41 PM by caballero
reply to post by sheila947



Thats because by "the people for the people" they interpret that phrase as "by the elite for the elite".

Money runs this country and if you dont have enough money to make your voice heard it wont be heard.

I felt out of all the candidates Ron Paul could have run the country the way it needs to be run he would have made the right choices for the country, he would have defended our rights instead of walking on them.

But Ron Paul is bad for business so they didnt want him ruining their daily income.


reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 09:29 PM by CA_Orot
Well, your first question; "do we really know who he is?"
I would say to that, how well do we ever really know another person?
A man's mind(or woman's) may as well be in another universe as far as knowing what someone "really" thinks.


Agreed. I don't believe that anyone every actually knows anyone else. I believe that people show the faces, that they want us to see. The project an image, but in reality, they could be a completely different person. Essentially I think we are all just actors; playing different parts in different situations.

It makes you wonder, how do you make a decision with so much misinformation, non-coverage of the important issues, and only two candidates that are iffy?


I would love to think that votes actually matter - however it is difficult for me to accept this as being true. The United States was founded by a group of men, to me, it only makes sense that it would continue to be run by a group of men. It is my honest opinion that it doesn't really matter which candidate wins - and that the outcomes will both be the same regardless of who the "president/puppet" is.

In terms of the lack of media coverage and misinformation; I think that most of the media is owned by the same companies - and that there are few private News Stations which have actually any say in what they are and are not allowed to print. Has anyone heard of CJR? Columbian Journalism Review:
www.cjr.org... This site shows a list of which companies own which Newspapers, Television Stations & Radio Stations. It scares me, the lack of private stations/newspapers - although I guess they can't really compete with the major ones. From a Business perspective, its like trying to put in a privately owned clothing store next to Wal-Mart; they don't stand much of a chance.

When the Media is suppressed into only providing select coverage, citizens would only see the propaganda they were supposed to see. We saw this during WWII, with complete filtration of what the public was allowed to see, read, and know about - Nazi Propaganda.

I think it is possible that something like this could also be happening in the United States (maybe not to the same extent) but perhaps there is a reason for the lack of coverage...what that reason is, I can't pretend to know. What I do know is it makes me a little uncomfortable, what it could possibly be.

- Carrot

Edited for: Spelling (Spell check didn't catch some partial words).

[edit on 8/23/2008 by CA_Orot]


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 12:35 AM by jhill76
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Sure, the thing that gets me is that people vote for someone because family all votes for said person, media tells them, etc. The Dems or Repubs can outright say we will declare martial law, and people would still vote the same way.
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