This is the same guy who's face is jacked up due to an attempted assasination by poison correct? Allegedly by the Russians? And you don't think it's good? (I'll quote you) "I do not know the full ramifications of it, but it just does not seem good at all".

Basic survival instinct 101. What Russia has done in Georgia should alarm all of the democratically elected leaders of the now independant former soviet states. In other words, the writing is on the wall.

This is only the beginning.

I will not be surprised to find Ukraine rushed into either NATO or an alliance with the US by December.

The ukraine has seen the 'Moscow graffiti' on the wall. It isn't pleasent reading, so they have taken a step towards assuring their survival. The invite the USA in to build its missile defence shield, station its troops, and if the Russians roll into the Ukraine, the USA is at war. Simple method of survival for the Ukraine.

It also gets mega bucks from the USA for sighting its missile systems in Ukraine territory.

Originally posted by TheRooster
This is the same guy who's face is jacked up due to an attempted assasination by poison correct? Allegedly by the Russians? And you don't think it's good?

I don't think its good for political stability of the region. Russia is already mad enough at us for the missile defense system. I seems to me like this could only make things worse. So the hand writing is on the walls. Please do tell what do you think that hand writing is saying?

Graffiti reads 'We have oil money, we have gas money, we have food, we have gold. We are soon to become an empire again, one former state at a time'.

Ukraine needs allies, military allies. Russia hit Georgia BEFORE it got NATO membership for a reason.

Ukraine will get hit the same way. Buffer zone building.

Hmm lets see here...

THe Ukraine is moving towards a Modern, Pro-Western Society...
Wanting to wstablish good relations with the US, and EU, and Nato...

Sound Familiar...

Hopefully one of Putins lower-advisors give him a Polunium Sushi dish...



Russia went Unchecked when they attacked Georgia...
So why should they fear anyone...

When Russia pulled out of the Ukraine, they left the Ukraine with a very large arsenal of weaponry. It belongs to the Ukraine now, not 'leased or lent' by Russia.

If the ukraine wants a USAF base on its own soil, its up to them. if they want a missile defence base, again its up to them. Russia is sabre rattling and trying to scare smaller states into submission.

They like a buffer zone around the Russian land, so their wars are fought on others land, not the Russian home soil. A hard lesson learnt from WWII.

The Russian are the same as the Germans were. You have to kick them in the ass to get them to listen.

If a guy was a person that wanted to really get an insight to the current Russian situation and how Putin is thinking, look into how Hitler came into power. Much more involved than what one sees on the news or reads on the internet. The Nazis purged the free press and other political parties before really coming into power. You see much the same inside Russia right now with reporters dying in suicides and other mysterious means, political opponents being shipped off to god knows where. All you have to do is take the blinders off and dig a little bit, and know a little bit about history. Putin is a relative young man that still has many years ahead of him. He is still in power building mode, not war mode.

Ukraine is on the very short list of things to do for Russia. Like I have said in another thread, Poland is the side show and Georgia was the message, Ukraine is the target for the Russians. They are not a NATO member, but will become one unless something happens. Russia is what will happen.

Many people think that the USA is down and out with Iraq and Afghanistan going and we can't possibly take any more on. This is pure BS being driven by Generals wanting nothing but more money and more manpower, with liberal newsheads talking to the sheep. Our defense is built to fight 2 wars at the same time. not 2 police actions.

This isn't American bravado talking, this is fact. The Russians know this and they are not stupid.

Put the missiles in Poland and go ahead and stick some in Ukraine at the same time. Russia will place some weapons in Cuba and probably South America. It'll be a cold war as Russia isn't willing to step up.

This is all good news. First Georgian forces gun down 2,000 civilians in South Ossetia; second, Bush/Rice/CNN/Fox all blame Russia for in incursion; third, everyone starts taking sides and talking nukes...wait, this is not good news. Does Bush/Cheney have anything lame-duck sensibilities? It seems they are in this for the long-haul, which is scary because we have an election coming up.

Both Georgia and Ukraine we're NATO Candidates before the incident, look for news prior to 08/08/08 like end July time you'll find varying stories including Russia, Georgia...

Anyway they must be nuts after Poland was threatened with nukes to offer radar in hopes of NATO membership, Nuts.