John McCain "Today We Are All Georgians", page 1
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Topic started on 13-8-2008 @ 04:09 PM by beforetime
video.google.com...


you can say this old fart is going senile...

but this speech was as moving as anything obama has ever spoke on.
and totally sincere..and very well thought out.
and i agree....with mcain on this one.

so give me your thought's on this matter please.


btw link to video is on top of the post...i can never get this website to show Google video's.


reply posted on 13-8-2008 @ 04:12 PM by Nerdling
"urgh"

that was my immediate response.

One of those cheap throwaway lines that gets a few whoops and some applause.

I think President Saakashvili had the same reaction as me.


CNN
“Yesterday, I heard Sen. McCain say, ‘We are all Georgians now,’” Saakashvili said on CNN’s American Morning. “Well, very nice, you know, very cheering for us to hear that, but OK, it’s time to pass from this. From words to deeds.”



reply posted on 13-8-2008 @ 04:24 PM by beforetime
Giorgia's president
video.google.com...

America stand's up for freedom .
we preach democracy....it's time we stand up for it.


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 09:42 AM by Unit541
reply to post by tigpoppa



Uhh, you do know that Communism is not a religion... right? Also, please introduce me to the John McCain you're talking about... I thought there was only one John McCain running for president, but from the sound of your post, there's another one that I know nothing about.


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:09 AM by neformore
reply to post by tigpoppa



The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.



You mean he's a cold war relic and - judging by what I just watched, an oil obsessed selective liar?

Maybe he should can the rhetoric and stick to the facts. The Georgians started this.

"Today we are all Georgians" - are you really? Are you really people who break ceasefires to shell cities?



As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 01:47 PM by justamomma
reply to post by WyrdeOne



Couldn't agree more and very well put!

I can speak for myself Mr. McCain. Today I am the same as I was yesterday and will be tomorrow. I am a Texan living in America with the problems of my own country drifting just above my head.

I am not a Georgian... I will not fall for the propaganda of "we are all one" that ultimately seeks to erase my individual identity in the name of "we are all humans" and tries to distract me from the reality of what is going on here in my own country.

Yes, we are all humans, but just as a dog is an animal but not a cat, which also happens to be an animal, I am human but not a Georgian.

The sugar coated "we are one" speeches do not change my opinion from "we need to withdraw ourselves from this conflict" to "omg... I see the light that we are all humans and therfore your conflict is my conflict... OF COURSE!"

"Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise." ~ Adolf Hitler


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 02:21 PM by grover
Originally posted by beforetime
Giorgia's president
video.google.com...
America stand's up for freedom .
we preach democracy....it's time we stand up for it.


Its a wonderful ideal and I support it wholeheartedly but you are naive if you believe we practice it here either at home or abroad.

What McCain said was campaign fluff and nothing more. If Georgia was not so stragetically located no one would give a rats ass about what was happening there... least of all this country.

[edit on 15-8-2008 by grover]
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