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Topic started on 18-7-2008 @ 09:51 PM by DimensionalDetective

Kucinich To Investigate Surveillance of Protest Groups!


rawstory.com
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who has figured prominently in recent political news for his attempts to begin impeachment hearings against President George W. Bush, today announced that the congressional subcommittee he chairs will look into reports of peace groups being surveilled by police and private investigators.

"[M]ost people would be upset to know that police were spying on lawful citizens and infiltrating peaceful organizations, rather than chasing down real criminals," said Kucinich in a press release
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 10:09 AM by applebiter
reply to post by jpm1602



DANG!

I had no idea. She could make a dead man ____. I say that in a non-covetous way, of course.


reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 03:49 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Seems the ACLU has uncovered documents detailing this sickening spying, surveillance, and infiltration operation being waged against anti-war activists.


I don't doubt there is surveillance and infiltration of anti-war activist groups, but I would hesitate to trust anything the ACLU has to say, the way they spin it and their agenda overall.

From ACLU's website, under "About Us: Staff & Leaders":

Nadine Strossen, President of the ACLU
Anthony D. Romero, Executive Director

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From Wikipedia:

Nadine Strossen (born August 18, 1950) is the current president of the American Civil Liberties Union. She is the first woman and the youngest person to ever lead the ACLU. A professor at New York Law School, Professor Strossen also sits on the Council on Foreign Relations.

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From The Notable Names Database:

Anthony Romero
Executive summary:
ACLU Executive Director
University: Woodrow Wilson School of Public Policy, Princeton University (1987)
Law School: Stanford University Law School
American Civil Liberties Union Executive Director (2001-present)
Ford Foundation Program Officer, Civil Rights and Racial Justice (5 years)
Rockefeller Foundation (two years)
Council on Foreign Relations
Inter-American Dialogue
Puerto Rican Ancestry

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So the top two leaders of the ACLU have seats in the Council on Foreign Relations, the think tank group, whose members have included Zbigniew Brzezinski, George H. W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller and Paul Warburg, just to name a few, and has played a critical role in policy making since its inception, including, but certainly not limited to, the crack down on freedoms in the United States since September 11th, 2001 that the ACLU is allegedly against?

And we're supposed to trust the ACLU?

Sorry. The membership process for the CFR is too detailed and too difficult that only those have some benefit to, or have done some special favor for "them" can make it through.

An understatement of these two ACLU leaders would be "suspicious". A more correct and appropriate term, in my opinion, would be "criminal".


reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 03:59 PM by pluckynoonez
reply to post by DimensionalDetective



I need to read rawstory more, I had no idea. One thing is for certain, Kucinich pimps the style. I'm serious, that man does work for the people!


reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 01:29 AM by The Nighthawk
Originally posted by JediSeraph797
Anyone hear of Anonymous, the Internet collective thats becoming famous for its pranks and its protests of Scientology? There is an article about the group in the latest Maxim.

I know some people who consider themselves members of the group and who organize and take part in some of the protests. One of these guys, who is a 21 year old student, was being investigated by the FBI (as were other organizers) to determine the source of their funding. The funny thing is, what little money the group has just comes from member donations.

So we have a group protesting a cult that perpetrated the largest ever infiltration of the US government, and the government is investigating the protest group. Ironic.


Not that I necessarily disagree with Anon's position on Scientology, Anon members did choose to start their protests by making a real-life "cyber-attack". Hate to tell you this, but that kind of activity is like begging to be investigated as possible terrorists. Yeah, it may have seemed like a "prank" at the time, but that kind of crap is taken very seriously these days.

Should the Gov be investigating the CoS? Absolutely. Maybe they are. Knowing how the CoS fights back like rabid weasels against any threat I'd expect any such investigation to be as deep-cover as possible. If they knew they were under serious scrutiny they'd close ranks so fast you'd never get any useful evidence.

And frankly there's a huge difference between spying on a groups like CoS, who have actively attempted espionage against the US Government and groups like Anonymous who have used actual cyber-attacks against their foe, and spying on groups who just want to get together and protest an illegal war--or, for that matter, the opposition parties.

In fact I'm of the opinion that's why we've seen so little action from this Democratic Congress--I'd bet my last dime this spying program has been used against every single one of them by the Neo-Cons and their cronies, and they're holding major dirt over their heads in exchange for a free ride on their acts of treason.

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