McCain's Humor Often Backfires - Rape Joke, etc. , page 1
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Topic started on 17-7-2008 @ 08:34 PM by Benevolent Heretic
In 1986, McCain told a joke about a woman getting raped by a gorilla, suggesting that she enjoyed it.


It came after his 'Seizure World' joke, in which he referred to the [retirement community] Leisure World as Seizure World
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McCain's lame humor isn't so much the issue here, as is his judgment. Misogynistic gorilla jokes, even if they are a bit dated are likely to create a problem for a percentage of women voters - particularly given McCain's positions on pro-choice and women's reproductive health.


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More recently, McCain joked about (then 18-year-old) Chelsea Clinton being so ugly because her father is Janet Reno. And just last week, he suggested exporting cigarettes to Iran would be a good way to kill them.

His spokesperson Brian Rogers says that this is what the people want. We want someone who is "authentic". Rogers says that's just "McCain being McCain" (does the phrase "boys will be boys" come to anyone else's mind?)


McCain was also recently condemned by the government of Iran for suggesting that increasing U.S. cigarette sales to Iran could be "a way of killing 'em."

"We condemn such jokes and believe them to be inappropriate for a U.S. presidential candidate," said Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini. "It is most evident that jokes about genocide will not be tolerated by Iranians or Americans."
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"He's long said that he's said and done things in the past that he regrets," Rogers said. "You've just got to move on and be yourself — that's what people want. They want somebody who's authentic, and this kind of stuff is a good example of McCain being McCain."


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If I wanted a racist, womanizing, insensitive, tactless person for a president, I would vote for John McCain.


He does get it - he just doesn't know how to change - and change is what Americans are looking for in 2008.


Bomb-bomb-bomb, Bomb-bomb Iran...

BAD Judgment.
BAD Decisions.
BAD President.


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 09:08 PM by JacKatMtn
reply to post by SantaClaus


VOTE!

Just don't vote for the ones who are presented in the MSM.

You are not alone with your position on either candidate, YOU are in the majority.

The majority needs to be heard, even if you vote for none of the above, you have exercised your right to vote.

Please do not shy away from disgust.

That is what has been going on for too long.

It is time to hear from you. VOTE.



ed;sp

[edit on 7/17/2008 by JacKatMtn]



reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 09:16 PM by SantaClaus
reply to post by JacKatMtn


I respect your opinion, alot actually, because this is the thought process that I struggled with up until just recently.

My issue is that I have found that the actual process of voting is ruined. It has been diluted to the point at which we are no longer represented. Its the system I fight, moreso than the horrid selection.

Lets be honest, we were upset when we were, as individuals, just a number.

Well I'm not even a number anymore! I'm a fraction of a number that only gets counted if the right circumstance occurs. Its convuluted drivel.

But this is for another thread. Sorry to go off on a tangent, BH.


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 09:30 PM by JacKatMtn
reply to post by SantaClaus


Just take a look back in history 30years would be enough, look at the issues at the time, compare them to now, look at the voices from that time, compare them to the arguments of the 80's, 90's and now.

NOTHING has been done to the benefit of the taxpayer.

Program this, pork/earmark that, and our taxes have been squandered and our general life experience has not been improved.

We went through the conservation 70's, great, many things that were a problem at that time were changed, some good things like recycling brought to the fore, more fuel efficient vehicles, emisions standards put in place EPA standards etc. etc.

What do we here now? We are now accused of being the cause for global warming??? Give me a break. It is a shell game, I don't buy it, I recycle, I don't drive everyday, I am not the problem.

The status quo in Washington IS the problem, be it REP or DEM, they are all to blame.

It is up to the FED UP to STAND UP and tell them it is ENOUGH.

If you do not VOTE, you help them.

That's all I can say about it, it's up to you, I hope you don't throw away YOUR voice come November, regardless how you vote, it is something millions around the world wish they had, don't toss it away due to being turned off with who is being touted as the next coming.

You don't have to vote for either one. It's your choice.



Sorry BH, I will step down from the soapbox, Got a little off track from your OP.

Forgive Me????

[edit on 7/17/2008 by JacKatMtn]


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 10:11 PM by LOLZebra
reply to post by JacKatMtn


I completely agree. I'm not completely thrilled with either of the two main stream candidates, and so have chosen to go for Dennis Kucinich instead. He may not win, but my vote won't be wasted. At least I won't be part of the statistics that say oh 40% of people didn't show up to vote.

Cheers

Zebra


reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 08:19 AM by Benevolent Heretic
I would appreciate it if we could post on topic.

Iranians Displeased with Jokes About Genocide

The issue that I see here is, we all tell jokes (OK, I can't speak for us all, but I think many of us do) that are politically incorrect at times. And I'm the LAST person to toe the PC line. But there are jokes I would tell in the privacy of my home that I wouldn't tell in a restaurant where everyone could hear me. It's not that I'm dishonest or politically correct, I just know that my husband (who I tell the joke to) is going to understand that it's a joke and that I really don't feel that way.

I think people in the public eye, ESPECIALLY a person running for presidency, should have the judgment to realize that he may offend someone with these insensitive personal jokes. Chelsea Clinton was an 18-year-old girl! What kind of jerk tells a joke about such a vulnerable person being ugly, that will be heard nationally? Where is the judgment there?

I'm all for freedom of speech and I support McCain's freedom to joke about any race, gender, country he wishes. But it makes me seriously question his judgment.


reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 08:34 AM by LLoyd45
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I would appreciate it if we could post on topic.
So, was your comment necessarily on topic, or just your opinion on John McCain BH?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

If I wanted a racist, womanizing, insensitive, tactless person for a president, I would vote for John McCain.



The issue that I see here is, we all tell jokes (OK, I can't speak for us all, but I think many of us do) that are politically incorrect at times. And I'm the LAST person to toe the PC line. But there are jokes I would tell in the privacy of my home that I wouldn't tell in a restaurant where everyone could hear me. It's not that I'm dishonest or politically correct, I just know that my husband (who I tell the joke to) is going to understand that it's a joke and that I really don't feel that way.
Do you really believe the Iranians fear John McCain wil kill them all off with cigarettes? I doubt it.. It's just an opportunity for them and others to be indignant over a stupid, offhand remark..

I think people in the public eye, ESPECIALLY a person running for presidency, should have the judgment to realize that he may offend someone with these insensitive personal jokes. Chelsea Clinton was an 18-year-old girl! What kind of jerk tells a joke about such a vulnerable person being ugly, that will be heard nationally? Where is the judgment there?
What about Barack Obama describing a whole segment of the population as "bitter working class voters who "cling to guns or religion" ? I guess no one should find that comment offensive..
I'm all for freedom of speech and I support McCain's freedom to joke about any race, gender, country he wishes. But it makes me seriously question his judgment.

His comments were off-color, but everyone puts their foot in their mouth ocassionally, even John McCain BH.


[edit on 18-7-2008 by LLoyd45]
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