Bad news for the land of the free,infant motality on a par with Coatis,gap between rich and poor -hu

I saw this report today in the Guardian newspaper.Alot of the emphasis of the report is lack of decent healthcare probably contributing to high infant mortality.The gap between rich and poor comes as no surprise but proportionatly the number of the population in prison does.here is the link;




www.guardian.co.uk...

Originally posted by candyfloss
I saw this report today in the Guardian newspaper.Alot of the emphasis of the report is lack of decent healthcare probably contributing to high infant mortality.The gap between rich and poor comes as no surprise but proportionatly the number of the population in prison does.here is the link;




www.guardian.co.uk...

They ate all the pies!

This will shock you Candyfloss!



Gazbom.

Originally posted by candyfloss
I saw this report today in the Guardian newspaper.Alot of the emphasis of the report is lack of decent healthcare probably contributing to high infant mortality.The gap between rich and poor comes as no surprise but proportionatly the number of the population in prison does.here is the link;




www.guardian.co.uk...

Was the "POO" bus driver on time and a turd?

Greetings.

Gazbom.

PS. A little off topic, sorry.

reply to post by candyfloss


In 1989, uninsured and making $3.35/hr, I paid $25.00 for a doctor's visit, $7.75 for a pregnancy test and $4.15 for an antibiotic.

In 2008, insured, making $12.00/hr and paying $65/wk for health insurance, my co-pay at the doctor's office is $35.00, my portion of the urine test is $65.00 and the antibiotic co-pay is $20.00. If I did not have insurance, the same doctor's visit would cost in excess of $300.00.

In 1991, uninsured, a trip to the emergency room cost me $212.00 complete with an x-ray. (My take home pay at the time was $164.00/rent was $90/mo) Last month, the same kind of trip to the emergency room cost $3,843.00 total; I received a bill for the hospital, the x-ray technician, and the emergency room physician. Thank goodness, I have insurance and only had to pay $484.00. Too bad my take home pay for a week is $324.00 and my rent is $600.

Even with insurance, I really have to weigh the financial consequence of getting medical care. If I did not have children, I would drop the insurance and never see a doctor. Did I forget to mention that I could not pay all the doctor bills (my son has diabetes and MUST get a prescription for syringes to deliver his insulin) and the clinics one after another refused to continue seeing my son to get the prescriptions? So now we have to go to the ER each time he needs more syringes and apply for the community care program to cover what the insurance company will not so they will allow us to pay $10/mo and just keep adding the hospital bills together and the technicians and doctors send their bills to collection agencies. Did I also forget to mention that the insurance now has the clause "necessary tests"? So if a doctor does not know what is wrong with my child, the insurance company will not pay for the test because they say it is not necessary to use a tests as a process of elimination to figure out what is wrong. Perhaps, I should also mention that the insurance companies and not the doctor determines how long a patient stays in the hospital. Maybe, I should also mention, a visit to the hospital a couple years ago with my son resulted in a month in intensive care ($480,000) that forced my employer to go to a different insurance company that would not cover my son's pre-existing condition for a year.

Why do people not get the health care they need? One reason is the cost and another is because they are denied, add to that insurance companies now determine what is necessary and what is not! Fewer doctor's and clinics are accepting Medicaid, forcing people to go to the emergency room. No one is going to go to the ER for a monthly check up!

On a different note, hospitals have downsized staff and raised their bills to cover those that do not pay. An average nurse will work 12 hour shifts 4-5 days a week and raise a family. Overworked and overtired... mistakes happen, an overdose of a drug administered to an infant can very well happen or symptoms of a far more serious illness can be overlooked.

Jenny McCarthy's son was misdiagnosed several times before she finally got a smart doctor. Another celebrity's infants were overdosed and he sued the hospital and the nurse who did it. You hear about these people, but you don't hear about people like me misdiagnosed with pinkeye only to have my tear duct burst a couple weeks later, or the guy that went to Bay Area Hospital, was sent home with a misdiagnoses of constipation and died from internal bleeding, or the mother that kept taking her baby to the ER because the baby wouldn't sleep and wouldn't eat and just kept crying. She kept getting sent away as well, the doctor telling her to quit being such an overly worried mom and babies will cry and go through stages, only to accidentally find out when she went out of town and her baby went into a coma that her baby had a twisted colon.

Thank you for replying to my thread Peggy M.I'm sorry to hear about the state of affairs you are in.I think it's scandalous.My daughter was very seriously ill last year and I thanked Jesus and all the Saints I was in England-excellent free health care and expertise-and even then it was a really expensive time,so you have all my sympathies.

But but but...I just heard McCain say there 'will be no Hillary health care'!
That he will NOT provide medical care for all thru the federal gov. And basically called Obama a commie for pushing it as a political strategy.

That McCain, what a big heart. He and Cheney really need to go pheasant hunting together after a couple six packs.

Those little ghetto babies and unemployed can eat cake.
GRRRRRRRR!

I smell a day old dead rat in the guise of pharma and health care industry lobbyists and PACS.

[edit on 7/28/2008 by jpm1602]

This is outrageous in the 'richest' country in the world. An assault on Iran and the pseudo war in Iraq would have covered every American for a decade at least I bet.

You saw my bus driver poo thread then Gaz?It was so bizarre I just had to post it.

Originally posted by jpm1602
But but but...I just heard McCain say there 'will be no Hillary health care'!
That he will NOT provide medical care for all thru the federal gov. And basically called Obama a commie for pushing it as a political strategy.

That McCain, what a big heart. He and Cheney really need to go pheasant hunting together after a couple six packs.

Those little ghetto babies and unemployed can eat cake.
GRRRRRRRR!

I smell a day old dead rat in the guise of pharma and health care industry lobbyists and PACS.

[edit on 7/28/2008 by jpm1602]

Idon't understand it either.All this fear of 'socialised medicine'.People have bben totally brainwashed in the US and it is a scandal.After reading what PeggyM wrote about that lady's baby I don't know why there are'nt huge protest marches.Oh no,I do,everyone will get tased and chucked in a FEMA camp for dissention.I've heard of this kind of thing before except the camps werecalled gulags.

Sigh. Follow the money Candy always. Follow the money. McCain never went a day without healthcare.
So much for empathy.

Americans have been brainwashed
communist are out to get them
duck and cover
duct tape and plastic

you cant have socialized medicine my god thats communist thinking
how can our CEO make 1000 times your salary if you have socialized medicine
Katrina laid bare to the world the poverty and despair in America and it shocked the world

your govt is worse than King George the third
they prance around with a swagger earning their gross salaries and
all the lobbyists bags of gold while the people live in squalor
cast off your yoke of oppression My dear friends in America
stand upright like the founding fathers
stop working and march in the streets until you make them listen to you

WOW People in Mississispi live 30 years behind those in Conecticut
thats huge
it must be like being in another time warp

Another shocker was the top fifth making 168k$ and the bottom fifth earning 11K$
how do you live working for 11k$ a year

Spot on Solo. The upper two percent of earners wouldn't even consider taking anything out to taxes. That goes to Rothchilds stocks. The forest thru the trees.
Someday, somehow, people will see it.