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reply posted on 14-7-2008 @ 10:30 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
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Originally posted by Marcos Arroyos
Star Wars from the Ford and Carter administrations? My best recollection tells me that the Star Wars program, i.e., the missle defense system, got
its start during the Reagan administration. 
For the most part, you're right. There were missile defense systems in place during the Ford and Carter Administrations. However, to my knowledge,
they did not involved 'space-based' defense systems.
 In 1963, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert McNamara announced the Sentinel Program, providing a defense against attack for most of the continental
United States. The system consisted of a long range Spartan missile, the short range Sprint missile, and associated radar and computer system.
Sentinel Program
 The Safeguard Program was a United States Army anti-ballistic missile system developed in the late 1960s. Safeguard was designed to protect U.S.
ICBM missile sites from counterforce attack, thus preserving the option of an unimpeded retaliatory strike. Safeguard used much of the same technology
of the earlier Sentinel Program, which had been designed to protect U.S. cities.
Safeguard Program
Also, on Robert M. Bowman's Wikipedia page:
 Despite his involvement with space programs and defense, he emerged as an early public critic of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI, also aka
"Star Wars") during the Ronald Reagan administration.
Robert M. Bowman
I'm not sure why he would be a critic of the Star Wars project in the Reagan Administration if he allegedly worked on a Star Wars project in the Ford
and Carter Administrations...
The article should have mentioned the Sentinel and Safeguard Programs instead of the Star Wars Program. Or at least mention that he was a critic of
the Star Wars Program. Or better yet, offer up this 'secret memo' where he coins the term. I'm leaning more towards that such a memo doesn't
exist, considering Bowman called the Star Wars Program "the ultimate military lunacy, easily overwhelmed and vulnerable".
Although it appears that part of the article is false, I fail to see how it "takes away from the credibility". Most of the article is the man's
quoted words, which is his opinion. There's nothing to take away credibility from.
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reply posted on 14-7-2008 @ 10:32 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
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Originally posted by Boone 870
The only problem with that is, this story broke April 4, 2006. 
Thats true. However I was simply speaking of the source, and how it does have a place in an "alternative news" section. Its up to the mods to deal
with the "breaking" part.
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reply posted on 14-7-2008 @ 11:12 PM by Nonchalant
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Ive always suspected Cheney as the main man behind 9/11...
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reply posted on 14-7-2008 @ 11:39 PM by TeslaandLyne
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At least he didn't go into DEWs in space.
But wasn't that what they were building for Star Wars, he even said so.
Anyone have his address.
There is a big linear accelerator in orbit right now and think
he might know about it.
And how did they haul that gigantic weapon in orbit in one piece.
Perhaps he knows how that was done as well.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 01:52 AM by SonicInfinity
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I find this to be extremely important. When somebody who was that high of status in the government at one point says something like this, I take
notice. Unfortunately, we could have a thousand people of his status say this, and it still probably would not make a huge difference unless more
people were awakened to the facts.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 02:00 AM by NovusOrdoMundi
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Originally posted by SonicInfinity
Unfortunately, we could have a thousand people of his status say this, and it still probably would not make a huge difference 
The mere mention of a Star Wars Program to the masses would only invoke recollection of the movies. By that time, you've already lost them.
Forget his status, forget the facts, the title of the program would transport them from a potentially enlightening conversation back in to their
Hollywood induced lull of stupidity.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 02:07 AM by Anonymous ATS
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While my overall opinion of my so called "Fellow Americans" has come to an all time low in the recent years, to the extreme that I have married a
Belarussian that makes American women appear like subhuman cows and varments, surrounded myself with immigrants from Europe and removed my family and
assets to be almost utterly severed from dependence and involved in the US Economy and these idiots, I must admit that maybe America will wake up.
Maybe the disinformation agents, the clerks and dweebs and gutter rats will finally be drowned out by the truth and reallities that are now slapping
you all in the face, mosre and more everyday. Maybe American is not doomed. Maybe it will not be punished for its many sins and wrongs!!!
....Naaa, you suckers won't wake up or change your ways but it was a pleasant thought. Go ahead, vote for McCain or Obama and your neighbors dog; go
ahead and believe the War on Terror is to protect you; go ahead and continue to support those who have been leading and feeding on you. Wave your
flag and draw the BS into your heart and soul, and when you look into the mirror believe that Jesus Loves You
The worst is all true and you have not heard the half of it.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 03:23 AM by pai mei
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He went public ? How much "public" ? I want to see him on CNN. Before he has an "accident" because of "sleepwalking" or something
I admire him for what he does. But most cannot think for themselves.
Everybody should know this : those in power do kill their own people. They did it in the past, they will do it again. That is what they do
[edit on 15-7-2008 by pai mei]
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 04:10 AM by FatherLukeDuke
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So Dick Cheney - the man who can't go hunting without shooting his best friend in the face, was behind 9/11??
Don't get me wrong, I can't stand the bloke, but is there a single shred of evidence he was behind 9/11? I haven't seen any - it just looks like
innuendo at best.
If you are going to accuse someone of murdering thousands of people you should get something a little more substantial than this.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 05:24 AM by Maybach Hanson
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what does star wars actually do? Is it designed for intersteller assault or is it designed for destroying targets on earth?
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 05:25 AM by candyfloss
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
So Dick Cheney - the man who can't go hunting without shooting his best friend in the face, was behind 9/11??
Don't get me wrong, I can't stand the bloke, but is there a single shred of evidence he was behind 9/11? I haven't seen any - it just looks like
innuendo at best.
If you are going to accuse someone of murdering thousands of people you should get something a little more substantial than this. 
Hey Father Luke Duke ,you look quite sexy for a priest your not a Vatican honeytrap are you ha ha.Anyone in a postion of authority who spoke out would
be suicided.End of.This is JFK and OJ all over again.Ten thousand books and enqiuries later the truth will probably com out in2024 when anyone of any
relevance has gone to meet their maker in Hades.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 06:15 AM by jsobecky
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Well, when you consider the type of thinking you're dealing with:
 Although it appears that part of the article is false, I fail to see how it "takes away from the credibility" 
you will realize that some people will believe anything as long as it fits with their agenda.
In other words, the facts, though interesting, are irrelevant.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 06:35 AM by heliosprime
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This has to be the stupidist, most moronic, and ignorant threads of all time. Get a life.............grow a brain................ hell just grow up.
Rosie Odummy makes this theory seen brilliant..........
If "dick" had all this power.....why are those morons who hate him still alive? Why haven't the "men-in-black" made all of you disappear?
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 07:10 AM by pjsconcrete
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I live just south of the district that he ran for. I was shocked to see Dr. Bob's name here on ATS. I've met him a couple times, and he really is a
brilliant man. He's very active in the Space Coast Progressive community.
When he ran against Tom Feeny 2 years ago, the Feeny campaign ran commercials showing him (photoshopped) wearing a tin foil hat, and calling him a
nutcase. Of course, he lost. Brevard county, Florida is a hugely right-wing county. People who have peace bumperstickers or democratic slogans on
their car get their windows broken out. Back in 2004 I had a "911 truth" bumpersticker on my car and was pulled over and had my car searched on a
weekly basis by the same Sheriff's Deputy.
I heard he's going to run again.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 07:17 AM by sty
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I guess the Internet users are just doing that - an impartial investigation.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 07:49 AM by crmanager
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Repeat after me...
9/11 was real. I am just being paranoid.
What is the facination with 9/11 being a conspiracy against the U.S. by GWB/Cheney/NWO...?
Let's review
Russia school siege toll tops 350
 BESLAN, Russia (CNN) -- The death toll in the Russian hostage crisis
has climbed beyond 350 as President Vladimir Putin denounced the massacre as "an attack on our country."North Ossetia government spokesman Lev
Dzugayev told CNN that 323 hostages, including 156 children, died in the siege in the southern town.
 Terrorist Attack in Bali, Indonesia
and others. Where was Cheney? The NWO? Halliburton?
9/11 was done by psychotic, Muslim animals. Face the facts.
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