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Europe drafts law to disconnect suspected filesharers

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posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 07:40 AM

Europe drafts law to disconnect suspected filesharers

France has suggested an amendment to the pan-European Telecoms Package, which would bar broadband access to anyone who persists in illegally downloading music or films.

Last month, the government of Nicolas Sarkozy insisted on a similar "three-strikes-and-you're-out" scheme for France. Under a cross-industry agreement, ISPs would have to cut off access for up to a year for third-time offenders. Sarko believes "there is no reason that the internet should be a lawless zone".
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 07:40 AM
Sarkozy's amendments will pave the way for the monitoring and filtering of the internet by private companies, exceptional courts and Orwellian technical measures.

The days of ATS and other critical communities are counted...
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 07:53 AM
Already surfaced in Denmark... however, give us links to some actual documents rather than ranting from some overintrepreting website... sorry, not directed at you Terra, but the goons how are putting us on through those sites.

It stinks of "let's present only what makes it look bad and wrong when out of context..."

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 07:55 AM
disconnect suspected they dont need any proof..judge -jury -executioner comes too mind.. my4 kids play alot of online games and this uses alot of broadband ( pc-ps3-xbox ) so will i be disconnected even though its not file sharing?

[edit on 6-7-2008 by fatdad]


posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 07:57 AM
well, now they will get the right to look at our traffic , perfectly legal ! Google also has to compile lists with who is watching what - then give them to the governments . It`s time to invent the new internet - a wireless point to point network where no provider would be needed.. i do not know how this would work on large scales, but it would work well in the city.

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 08:20 AM
reply to post by sty

What you're speaking of already exists, the problem is untill it becomes so widespread traffic can route itself without using the normal backbones, the "normal" internet will still have to be used.

On topic, this is an escalation in the war against the information age, by making up crimes of which everyone pratically is guilty of, they get the power to remove from the web those that they deem undesireable. Zeitgeist downloaders and other 911 truthers, people using alternative healing techniques, whistleblowers and anyone else against the mainstream will be the first casualties.

And all for what? To keep a few people making millions with no work out of elitist designed IP laws, to keep these selfish self centered parasites as owners of information.

Enjoy the web while you still have it.

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 08:26 AM
If they want a damn war then they will get one!
No matter what they try to do, no goverment or agancy or organisation or agreement can stop people on the net.
The filesharers and the hackers, the phreakers and the crackers, there are too many of them and they are too smart to be stopped by a bunch of stupid beurocrats and polititions who have as much backbone as a worm.

Read the Hackers Manifesto by The Mentor, especially the last paragraph.

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 08:47 AM
Here is the IFPI report of 2007-2008. Should be helpful for a lot of the muso's

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 09:53 AM
It has been mainly caused by an issue with the 5 Major labels regarding illegal downloading and sharing of copyrighted music.

Last year Sony-bmg and TimeWarner sued the national ISP in Ireland (Eircom) for allowing illegal file sharing etc..AND WON!!!

If it goes through, there will be companies trying to set people up for downloading copyrighted products illegally... its basically entrapment but its the only way for these companies and many smaller ones to start making proper profits since the Cd died and digital downloading became the new norm.

It does give them the option to monitor more data on the net and possibly bring in more restrictions for other things. But the Eu dont work like that...not yet anyway.

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 10:00 AM
This must be done. If someone keeps stealing from a store, eventually they won't let you in the store any longer.

As far the ISP, everywhere else you have no real privacy in your transactions either, so why would this be different. The phone companies have been tracking your calls for eons. No one thinks twice when they get a phone bill listing all their calls? When it comes to commerce, I have given up any expectation of privacy long ago. Even in a black market transaction there are always at least 2 parties involved.

People just need to quit stealing copyrighted material.

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 10:11 AM
reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity

What drives the use of downloading is the realization that its only costs $1.48 to produce, market and pay the rights of music recordings. Movies cost a few cents more. Talk about excessive profits in oil? Entertainment milks your pocket book a hell of alot more. Sharing music between individuals has been the norm since recording was invented. People aren't stupid and trying this profiteering will backfire on them. CD sales have dropped since they made it harder to record your own duplicate to use in the two or three cars your family owns without hauling them back and forth to each vehicle you use. They are leeches that prey on the artists. Its not us thats the problem.


posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 10:23 AM
MEPs want to torpedo the Free Internet on July 7th

Mobilisation Paquet-Telecom wiki

OBJECTIVE: Contact your MEPs and their assistants before July 7th, the date of the vote in IMCO and ITRE committee, to inform them that the "Telecoms Package" amendements are dangerous for users' freedom and harmful to network neutrality

Example of a letter to send to your country MEPs (please translate in your own language and post it)

It has come to my attention that the reform of the “European law on electronic communications” (the so called “Telecoms Package”) will be debated in the European Parliament next week (7 July). These proposed changes to European telecommunications law will permit the monitoring and blocking of websites and peer-to-peer exchanges by ISPs, in a way that is currently not legally possible. These legal changes will also permit ISPs to sanction users by suspending or terminating Internet access. European Internet users could be blocked from lawful activities by mandatory spyware, in the interests of their "security". The right to use free software for internet access would therefore not be assured anymore. The neutrality of the Internet is also directly attacked, as is the principle that technical intermediaries have no obligation to prior surveillance of contents. Other amendments will de-facto enable administrative authorities to obligate ISPs to work with content producers and rights-holders’ private police, including the sending of intimidating messages, with no judicial or regulatory oversight.

The proposed copyright amendments will result in the loss of individual freedom and privacy on the Internet – in breach of fundamental principles of human rights law in Europe.

I am therefore asking you to drop or reject the amendments related to Intellectual Property Rights, which are completely unrelated to the Telecoms Package.

Kind regards,

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 01:41 PM
Um, yeah. When the Piratebay servers got raided a couple years ago and the site went down, within a few hours 25% of internet traffic in Europe stopped. ISPs aren't going to like that drop in business. Besides, how are they going to know if you are downloading illegally? There are quite a few independent artists and filmmakers who realize the benefit of P2P and gladly give away their work over bittorrent.

I know people here in the States who have had their bandwidth limited when they have a P2P program running. Some have even had to switch the programs that they use because some stop working. Hopefully soon the software companies and artists who are trying to legitimately distribute their products will sue the living crap out of ISPs that engage in these practices.

The good thing is, the corporations are trying to fight against the very nature of the internet. no matter what they do, pirates will always find another way to keep information free.

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