Cleveland Smoking Gun Proves “Arab Hijacker” Calls From United Airlines Flight 93 Were Faked

I also respect your opinion. But you seem to assume that people don't know about Cell Phone towers, how they hand off signals, and that there are phones on airplanes. I've only referenced the cell phones because there was a huge debate about how someone COULD not possibly have called, or how it was easy and both sides were absolute and mostly wrong.

Why would any celltower wish to direct it transmissions upward? Well, say they are spreading coverage in an area where they are not the highest object, or they have no reason to block transmissions from going upward. This isn't to say, that even if ALL cell towers are strictly set to point downwards that it would make high altitude calls impossible because of signal deflection. A fast moving plane would just keep switching towers in a city at a very fast clip, but there might be a moment on a turn where you could keep a signal.

Anyway, I don't really care about this discussion for the tech details -- it was merely an example of how detailed any of these FACTS needs to be examined before we can determine their veracity. Which I'm sure you can appreciate.

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Excellent link, Boone! I've never seen that one before, nice job.

There is no evidence to support the crash of flight 93 in Shanksville.
That official story has been busted. And thats the end of that.



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You are getting angry at the truth? I tire of people coming up with outrageous claims and no evidence. You talk in fact that has no basis of truth. There is NO evidence to demolition at the WTC. Do you really think, that when the media tipped off the Iraq invasion, twice, that they would not WANT to find something to destroy the current administration?

THere was no planted phone call. All of this information is available on tape from the FAA. There are numerous articles that explain it. It was a mistake and it was broadcast. End of story.

This thread is about the accidental cockpit transmission from alleged flight 93 that has been proven impossible. This piece of evidence is the only piece that puts any terrorist in the cockpit and its busted.

Conclusion: The 'arab' sounding hijack call from the cockpit did not originate from flight 93 but from a undisclosed location.

Is it possible that one of the mock hijacking exercises taking place that day could of overlapped the real world events?

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Except that the airliner was over a rural area (taller cell towers farther apart). Not to mention that according to flight data and mapping of the cell towers there were several points where due to the lower altitude of the airliner, higher terrain that the towers were on....that signals could have been captured..and maintained.

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I agree, the evidence that supports flight 93 crashing in Shanksville has become scarce. Most experts agree that a Boeing 757 did not crash in SHanksville on 911.


Its normal for the guilty to install disinformants and topic derailers to obsefucate the truth.

Back up this statement with proof or retract it. This is not true and you know it.

Actually you don't have to prove that....we all know that is not accurate.

Please provide one statement from an expert in aviation disasters that states what you posted.

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Ivan still waiting for your evidence to your above statement.

thank you

I live in Cleveland. Mike White the mayor at the time said flight 93 was grounded and taxid to a far end of the tarmac. Yet that info was labeled 'untrue'.
How can that scenario be so fubar'd?
Don't believe it. Won't believe it. Never did for a second.

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Can you post the link to that story please?

Thank you!

This thread is about the accidental cockpit transmission from alleged flight 93 that has been proven impossible. This piece of evidence is the only piece that puts any terrorist in the cockpit and its busted.

Conclusion: The 'arab' sounding hijack call from the cockpit did not originate from flight 93 but from a undisclosed location.

Is it possible that one of the mock hijacking exercises taking place that day could of overlapped the real world events?

I know what this thread is about. I am asking for you to follow up on your post here.

If you can't, you can retract that statement. There is no shame in being wrong.

Good work you guys in fighting justice one post at a time.

We all know that no plane crashed in Shanskville on 911.

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Any word on those experts yet Ivan?

Cheerleading does not put names with your statements.

Kindly back them up.

I agree with you on this one.

It is, however, not likely to be resolved.

1. experts on what exactly
2. define 'most' of these experts

Funny thing is, you dont have to be an expert to know when people are lying and trying to sell b.s

The names of the people involved in the cleanup and recovery of the cruise missile will not reveal their names for we all know you debunkers will harrass, prank call, and try to discredit. Remember also that these people have families, careers, and credibility they wish to withhold from the public for obvious reasons.

But enough of the ad-hom attacks and distracting, derailings

Experts agree that the emergency accidental transmission from flight 93's cockpit did not orginate from flight 93 but an undisclosed location.

Where is the Irony meter when you need it. You hit the nail on the head Ivan.



More false statements. Ivan did you know over 1,100 people from 74 agencies and organizations worked at the scene. Including civilian volunteers, many of whom joined an organized effort to collect aircraft parts, the number of crash scene workers reaches well over 1,500.

Here are some names.. you know, the ones you said wouldn't give out their names or information?

Rick Lohr, Director of the Somerset County Emergency Management Agency

Rick King, Assistant Fire Chief Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company

Terry Shaffer. Chief Of Shanksville F.D.

Dave Fox Firefighter

Keith Custer, 28, member of the Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company

Wells Morrison, local FBI agent

Jon Meyer, a reporter with WJAC-TV who arrived prior to barriers.

Faye Hahn, an EMT

Wallace Miller Somerset County Coroner

Paul Sledzik, Curator Armed Forces Institute of Pathology National Museum of Health and Medicine,Leader of flight 93 Disaster Mortuary

Dr. Dennis C. Dirkmaat, Chief Scientific Advisor to Somerset County Coroner's office in the flight 93 investigation

Dennis Kwiatkowski, Cambria County Coroner




Here is some contact information for the first responders:
Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co, Shanksville, PA 15560 Terry Schaffer, Chief; Rick King, Ass't Chief

Somerset County Emergency Services 100 East Union Street, Somerset, PA 15501

Westmoreland Cy Dept. of Emergency Management 12 Court House Square Greensburg, PA 15601

Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency Harrisburg, PA 17101

DMORT: sledzik@email.afip.osd.mil /dirkmaat@mercyhurst.edu

or you can call DMORT:
Disaster Mortuary Team Main office: 1-800-USA-NDMS, ext. 205
DMORT Region 3 office (includes Pennsylvania) 410-676-4600


Departments and Agencies in Shanksville after 911:

• 8 Police Departments
• 7 EMS Services
• 8 Fire Departments
• 10 Emergency Management Agencies
• NTSB
• ATF
• FBI
• CISM
• Red Cross
• United Airlines


Here is a list of volunteer departments involved in Shanksville:

Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company,
Stoystown Volunteer Fire Company,
Central City Fire Department,
Berlin Fire Department,
Friedens Volunteer Fire Department,
Listie Volunteer Fire Company,
Somerset Volunteer Fire Department,
Somerset Ambulance Association,
Hooversville Volunteer Fire Department,
Hooversville Rescue Squad.





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And what does your last post have to do with the research that proved that the alleged transmission from the alleged hijackers did not originate from 'flight 93'?

Nothing. Deal with the real issues and stop letting yourself get too emotionally charged over the inability to understand the facts.