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The Illuminati's Perversion Of Religion

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posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by TechnoFan21
It's kinda funny, when I started reading the Terra Papers, combined with my knowledge and much experience with Reptillians, I had a "Holy S***!" moment right when the Papers started to mention Reptillians. I knew just a little bit about the Reptillians, and what the Terra Papers said matched up with that perfectly.

I am still not done with them, and time is still again short, but I am working tirelessly through it!


I think you will find it highly enlightening by the end.

Have you had a chance to watch Nassim's presentation yet? (I know, I know. Eight hours is a long time - but I found that I couldn't stop watching once I got started - and I couldn't wait to see part 2 having watched part 1.)




posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 01:56 PM
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The first book was good, but he borrows heavily from Zecharia Sitchin. Throw in George Lucas' Death Star and it is an enjoyable read.
The second book is a rehash of all the conspiracy theories: Freemasons, Reptilians, etc.
Basically his conclusion is: There is no god and we have to fight to reclaim our planet, even though we are stupid apes.

He doesn't cite any sources or references to any claims which is true of many in the ancient astronaut field.
A good read, but pure fiction and borrowed theory.
Recommended for people who like Sitchin's work.

Edited for content

[edit on 7/19/2008 by kidflash2008]



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by kidflash2008
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The first book was good, but he borrows heavily from Zecharia Sitchin. Throw in George Lucas' Death Star and it is an enjoyable read.


The Terra Papers were written before Sitchen and before Star Wars... So... Maybe they borrowed from him.

Apparently Von Daniken's work was what Robert used in petitioning the Hopi elders, who hold the knowledge in secret, to let him tell the story. And he only told what pertained to Von D's stuff, clarifying and correcting it. There is so much more that was not covered in the Papers.


The second book is a rehash of all the conspiracy theories: Freemasons, Reptilians, etc.
Basically his conclusion is: There is no god and we have to fight to reclaim our planet, even though we are stupid apes.


Um... No... We WERE stupid apes. We have been given the Gift of the Feather. We are far more than apes. We have been gives EA's genetics. We are galactic royalty all.

And the "rehash..." Maybe it's not theory; maybe it's fact, and that is why he has it in the history he wrote based on what he had been given through his grandfather from Bek'Ti.


He doesn't cite any sources or references to any claims which is true of many in the ancient astronaut field.


Sure he does. His reference was Bek'Ti. This is the story he learned from his grandfather and, I believe, he even had contact with Bek'Ti himself.


A good read,


Very rough, actually...not well written from a technical standpoint, but then he was not writing fiction, but recounting the history he had been taught.


but pure fiction and borrowed theory.


Wrong and wrong.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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An alien we cannot question is not cite material. He makes claims throughout the papers of "many scientists" without sourcing them. I also think Sitchin could win this one in a lawsuit. He needs to produce an alien body. Then I would more than likely believe his story.

I guess it is up to the reader if they want to believe this without question.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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Jesus was considered a regular man until it was voted on that he was divine.

I think you miss the significance of what Constantine did.
What is important is that he established an official method to settle disputes within the Church.
He decided to have it set up so he could guarantee the outcome.
The Bishops would gather in a Council, to vote on different subjects.
But Constantine held the power to appoint Bishops into their positions.
The crises that pushed Constantine to take this step was the fact that common people were discussing "divine" topics in "mundane situations.
The Church "authorities" said, among themselves, "How can we tolerate having fishmongers in the street markets discussing points of theology, concerning the very nature of God?"
The vast majority of Christians, before the Council, believed in the divinity of Jesus.
The dispute was over the question, "If Jesus (the Son of God) is begotten, did he, at some point in time, not exist?"


[edit on 20-7-2008 by jmdewey60]



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 08:14 PM
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Uhm...I've gotten to the point where I can't read the books anymore.

I'm sorry. I don't find that what the Terra Papers says to be true. I was going to really get into it, but then I started to find fault after fault after fault, especially when it got to the Jesus part. I am the one to believe in far-out things in like the Terra Papers, but I cannot seem to find common ground with it.

I may be withdrawn from the mainstream Christian Religion, and I may loathe going to church because of the ignorance that is sometimes preached, but that does not mean I am not devout.

Sorry.



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 12:56 AM
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"Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? But ye have borne the TABERNACLE OF YOUR MOLOCH AND CHIUN your images, the STAR OF YOUR GOD, WHICH YE MADE TO YOURSELVES." (Amos 5:25-26)


God was angry that they took the star of Molech for their symbol.



posted on Aug, 24 2008 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by TechnoFan21
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Uhm...I've gotten to the point where I can't read the books anymore.

I'm sorry. I don't find that what the Terra Papers says to be true. I was going to really get into it, but then I started to find fault after fault after fault, especially when it got to the Jesus part. I am the one to believe in far-out things in like the Terra Papers, but I cannot seem to find common ground with it.

I may be withdrawn from the mainstream Christian Religion, and I may loathe going to church because of the ignorance that is sometimes preached, but that does not mean I am not devout.

Sorry.


Hey, not an issue with me. Believe as you will. I am not a Christian - having been raised with no religion, but having sought out an understanding of myself in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Celtic and Neo-Celtic traditions, Shintoism, and more. When I stopped looking for a God-out-there, and looked within (as Jesus suggested to do in the Gospel of Thomas - which was left out of the Bible because it suggests that one needs no church, in all likelihood), there I found myself.

I believe religion is a personal choice, and I also believe many a good message has been twisted by individuals with agendas.

(Sorry I missed this response. I get no notification when threads I have replied to get postings... [shrug])



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