Bush Declares National Emergency? why?

Sounds like a trend to do away with the machines?

www.boston.com...

...but it's not like we have any kind of choice anyway.

Sad.
GW Bush wants out of the Oval Office as bad as we want him out, but he has a legacy to attend to before all is said and done.

Why would anyone want to be CEO of USA Inc. with the market the way it is and blatant stupidity so ubiquitous among eligible voters?

reply to post by msdesertrat

Originally posted by msdesertrat
Sounds like a trend to do away with the machines?

www.boston.com...

...but it's not like we have any kind of choice anyway.

That's too bad, because paper ballots are the easiest ones to cheat.

Originally posted by pjslug
You know, Bush is a moron. We all know that. But he is not trying to set a precedent for martial law. If he were, why would he be in favor of the supreme court ruling allowing "everyone the right to bear arms as defined by the second amendment in the constitution" ? If he really wanted martial law, that would be the LAST thing he would want the civilians to have.

People keep spinning their wheels here on ATS, proclaiming doom is just around the corner at every turn. The state of affairs in this country is certainly poor, but we are still alive and kicking -- no military forces are busting down our front doors! You guys have been saying this stuff for years (and society has been saying it for centuries). Bush is a moron, plain and simple. He doesn't have the intelligence to coordinate a martial law effort. Give it up, already.

[edit on 6/27/2008 by pjslug]

Sorry, you are wrong. No, we don't all know that. And I have a genius IQ, or so I have been tested and told. There are many many things going on in our world that neither you nor I am aware of. I have found out, thru this site, about alleged tunnels all over the world, some I already knew about. Allegedly, the tunnels under the oldest civilization on the planet, Babylonian, hold ancient artifacts of power and science, that we could reverse engineer. We absolutely did not go into Iraq for the oil, as we have enough for the next millenium at current consumption, not including the recent discovery of the largest oil field ever discovered anywhere. Bush knows that! And the finding of the WMDs in Iraq was reported, and ignored by most. They go on glibly pretending it didn't happen. I think the same ones who assure us the holocaust never occurred. We used a new, new to me anyways, tech that projected a hologram of a huge head into the sky, telling the Iraqi's to lay down their arms and surrender, because it was HIS will, all in Arabic. We used another 'new' tech to simply 'turn off' all the tanks in the desert. NEMP. There is much we do not know, because we are not in the loop. This site can give us a foot up so we can look over the fence and see some things, but not all. You don't know why we went into Iraq. The troops, mostly, that have been engaged in that war are in full support of what we are doing, and doing to help those people that the radicals are attacking. It is shaking the Arab world, filling the average Arabs' mind with doubt about the agenda of their 'overseers'. And those same troops are getting unprecedented support from average Americans, helping them to cope with the stress and hardship. 'There are three kinds of lies; lies, damn lies, and statistics' Statistics say what the socialists want, that Bush is unpopular. Well, that may be true, and it may not. Personally, I think he is in bed with the NWOers, thus my enemy. But he is still 'President', and I still have a modicum of respect for the office, thus him. I must have the humility to admit that he may be correct in this instance, possibly others. I, at least, do not know.

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Have you read the Terra Papers...?

Things are explained so well - so very well. One of the threads dealing with the Papers is here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

And a direct link to them is in my sig.

Originally posted by Gregarious
They go on glibly pretending it didn't happen. I think the same ones who assure us the holocaust never occurred. We used a new, new to me anyways, tech that projected a hologram of a huge head into the sky, telling the Iraqi's to lay down their arms and surrender, because it was HIS will, all in Arabic. We used another 'new' tech to simply 'turn off' all the tanks in the desert.

If you, too, have a genius IQ then it would be wise of you to get a grip on reality and practice common sense. Of course the holocaust happened and anyone who would argue it didn't is a completely ignorant fool. But what does that have to do with believing we project images into the sky to Iraqi soldiers? Come on now, if you really believe stuff like that you are stuck in a world of fantasy and playing too much D&D.

This site is full of good information as well as bad. You need to use some common sense to filter through the garbage. Don't just see what you want to see.

[edit on 6/28/2008 by pjslug]

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Yeah, right. And NEMP is also a figment. Did you know that we had stealth aircraft, I think I recall, about a decade before they were made public? Science and tech are moving at a logarithmic rate, and you do not know what they have right now. The budget congress fights over? It is half of the budget. The rest is 'black budget', unaccountable, and possibly arbitrary, but we must have faith in our elected leaders to not rob us blind? And at least some of those billions must be going, even if accidentally, to legitimate research and weapons development. My younger brother was an officer in the Gulf War, and related that he was made privy to tech that would blow my mind. Of course after that, their joke that 'I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you...' This stuff, including the holographic projection, is not classified. It is also not reported by the Reds. My suggestion is you do some research before making an asphalt out of yourself.

I never said we don't have secret black budget technology. Obviously we do. But show me one bit of evidence or several collaborated stories where our soldiers have seen holographic projections in the sky of mythical, floating, Arabic heads to confuse Iraqi soldiers. You think Iraqi's would have been the only ones to see these things? Where are the U.S. soldiers claiming that these projections are real?

Give me a break. Snap out of fantasyland, pal.

[edit on 6/28/2008 by pjslug]

www.whatdoesitmean.com...

Bush Declares US In ‘State Of Emergency” Over Iranian Nuclear Fears

These reports state that upon North Korea’s presenting to the United States the complete dossier on its nuclear weapons programme, and for which President Bush immediately dropped all sanctions and removed them from the American list of countries supporting terrorism, the US Intelligence Community ‘shuddered’ at the full implication of Iran’s involvement in the building of North Korean’s nuclear weapons.

But, to the most concerning element of the American President’s declaration of a State of Emergency lies in the extraordinary powers granted to him, and which include his ability to bypass the US Congress to launch immediate attacks upon Iran and any Nation that comes to their defense.

Even more ominously, for the American people, is that under this new State of Emergency, President Bush is able to suspend all civil liberties and institute martial law over his citizens, even to the extent of suspending the upcoming elections should he declare it to be in his Nations best interest.

reply to post by pjslug
No, it wasn't 'heads', it was one, ostensibly Allah. And we can also 'show' aircraft squadrons, troops, or rows of tanks. I also had an engineer in SoCal tell me that, no, the StarWars was not a bluff to win the Cold War, but we really have the technology to knock the missiles down, but it is not funded. And we are in big trouble because China now has the ability to knock out our satellites, isolating field units who rely on GPS and satellite communications. We also, purportedly, have the ability to bore out huge underground caverns and tunnels using lasers, rather quickly now. 'The only difference between truth and fiction, is that fiction must be credible' Mark Twain

You know, I wish the democrats had a chance to win the election this year. So then I would like to hear what all the Bush haters had to say about things then. Unfortunatly McCain is pretty a Dem. also so let's see

Kinda weird it was released on my birthday

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Third term? He wants to be a lifer. He is getting an itchy trigger finger because the elections are coming up and this is his last chance.He knows he doesn't have a shot at ever getting elected again.



Presidential directive NSPD 51 & HSPD_20

I'm kind of hoping we keep Bush.

most likely though, he will just start the war right before being out of ioffice so that Obama has no choice but to keep the fight going, thus nutralizing him effectively from kowtowing to the middle east until another Republic is elected in 4 years as Obama is forced into fighting wars (and being a liberal doing a #ty job of it)

why Obama would want to be in this position if he is a "man of peace" id beyond my senses, I anything demonstrates that he is kind of clueless... it's being unaware he is going to be thrown into a war torn situation he can't back out of...

but I digress... Bush will start the war and leave... a serious live fire war + political opposition = completely ineffective Brack Obama on all areas of policy... that's the Bush plan

I am no fan of Bush, but you guys are reading WAY too much into this one. I'm not an expert on the subject, but I believe this EO is North Korea's "reward" for backing down from their nuclear program. Since they (have been/are being) taken off the axis of evil list, certain formalities and protocols have to be established for their new status. The old protocols under the "Trading with the Enemy Act" will no longer be valid for North Korea. This Executive Order sets up the new rules (restrictions) for North Korea since the TWEA technically will no longer apply to them.

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its all about the USA hegemony politically/internationally
and about forcing a return to US Dollar hegemony,
through the use of brute force.... as i tried to state in the earlier post


but i did run across an article that goes through the same scenario i use, [in the making of war with Iran]
but the author comes to an end result that is completely opposite of myt end result,
the author figures this lead up to war will result in the complete collapse of the USA internationally and economically

see: www.marketoracle.co.uk...
(The June 2008 DOW Crash and the coming first strike attack on Iran herald end of dollar hegemony)



his analysis is way too predestrian and pop-culture-ish, imho
and does not see these current events with a prophetic, foretelling lens as i do.
we'll see whose vision is better, pretty soon

Originally posted by mecheng

Looks like he's setting himself up for his third term.

No.

The powers that be, the elite that pull the strings, pick our presidents. Just as they picked Bush, they will pick the next one. They have already picked Obama and McCain.

They do not need Bush to serve a third term, because their next puppet after Bush will still follow their policies. Bush doesn't pull the strings, he's merely the puppet, not the puppeteer.

By the way, whatever happened to North Korea any way?!

Does anyone here remember how they launched unarmed nuclear missiles at Hawaii last year? The media reported on it for like 3 days, then after that everyone forgot about it.

Since then, everything has been hush hush. Despite them actually detonating a nuclear bomb, and launching unarmed nuclear ICBMs at Hawaii last year, our government, military, even media is not doing or saying anything? lol wtf.

I bet most people here didn't even know they launched ICBM's at Hawaii last year.
www.foxnews.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

edit- I guess it was 2 years ago, not last year. Just goes to show how quickly we have all forgotten.

Why is it that Iraq poses no threat to us but we invade it, Iran poses no threat to us but we are preparing to invade it, but North Korea actually launches missiles directly at Hawaii, and also threatens to Nuke us, but the media only reports on it for 3 days before nothing is done.

Oh, that's right North Korea isn't an enemy of Israel, and it also has no oil.


[edit on 29-6-2008 by OrangeAlarmClock]

Originally posted by Gregarious
We used another 'new' tech to simply 'turn off' all the tanks in the desert. NEMP.

What is this an acronym for... (?) Electro-Magnetic Pulse (I'm presuming on those last three...)

'There are three kinds of lies; lies, damn lies, and statistics' Statistics say what the socialists want, that Bush is unpopular. Well, that may be true, and it may not. Personally, I think he is in bed with the NWOers, thus my enemy. But he is still 'President', and I still have a modicum of respect for the office, thus him. I must have the humility to admit that he may be correct in this instance, possibly others. I, at least, do not know.

I have issues with any choice to offer an individual any respect merely because they were able to attain a public office. Only if they hold that office in esteem and work to fulfill its proper duties will I have respect for the individual.

With Bush especially, there is enough evidence to suggest he never was elected to that position, with Jeb in Florida creating anomalies and thereby allowing W to be appointed, and with Diebold and their opaque code which produced results that were skewed off the charts relative to the exit polls.

So I have no respect for him, and do not call him my President. He is a usurper.

Whoa, hold on. I didn't say I respect HIM, I said there are things that I do not know, because I am not in the loop. I respect the office. Even if he is a usurper, I do not know enough about the facts to make that determination. However, I do know that almost all politicians are lawyers, and judges, too. And they are immoral, godless, wicked people. There is an exception to every rule, and I think the exception to THAT rule is lawyers. 'Woe to you lawyers'. If Nemesis really passes us in 2012, it all won't matter anyway.