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Bush Declares National Emergency? why?

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posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 01:26 AM
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Just curious as to why all you doom and gloom people are not out rioting in the streets right now? I mean if you are so sure that this is the beginning of the end why aren't you out stopping the "lizard people" and the "nwo"? It is your patriotic duty




posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 01:35 AM
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Ok, I come home to this...

Yesterday I was hanging out downtown (small town Ohio next to two air bases: National Guard and Airforce - a BIG airforce base - mostly logistical - no crazy aircraft unless something is going down) Well I look in the sky and I see an E-4 like aircraft being escorted by a single F-22. They were headed north, and when they got pclose to the tree line the F-22 broke off to the west. I was really wierded out by that, I only see F-16s all day and big C-5s. I saw some E-4 like things after 9/11 but that didn't last long at all.

But today was even crazier!
Same deal, even sitting at the same place, I look in the sky and see a B-2 - low altitude. Not long later B-52's start circling and I realize that one has the B-2 directly following it's flight path very closely. I also noticed another F-22 with two F-16's flying delta with it.

I kept yelling "Oh # they gonna bomb Iran!!"

Anyways, that was my crazy couple of days...

It's just funny I see this thread when I get home...



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 01:38 AM
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I'm not a lawyer, nor am I professing to be perfect on interpretation of Presidential Executive Order's, even though I know a lot about them, it sounds like while George W Bush has taken North Korea off the "terror support" list, he has taken precationary measures to strengthen, tighten, and choke-hold economic sanctions against North Korea.

Essentially said, while taking one finger off the "terror button" Bush has placed the other one on the fincancial pulse, cutting off the blood flow to North Korea getting money from the outside.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by LLoyd45

Originally posted by SaviorComplex
For someone trying to instate martial-law or force the country into accepting a third term, he sure has a funny way of going about it. Look at the last line of the executive order.


Furthermore, Congress may modify, rescind, or render dormant such delegated emergency authority.
But the big question is.. Will they? They've been pretty useless so far in defending our rights as American citizens.


Actually it is YOU that is useless so far in defending your own rights. You are too busy poking your nose in OUR business and invading other countries than defending your own rights.



[edit on 28-6-2008 by mOOmOO]



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 02:06 AM
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I've read two poles on this issue on same day.
N. Korea 'not so bad' entity of evil.

N. Korea bad. Bad enough to publicly demonize.

I'm confused. Take your risk game to antarctica and go play with yourselves.

We are beyond the hyperbole.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by narin
And mark my words, there are few among the many that seek to do unto Obama as they did unto JFK.

well well, maybe not.
Zbigniew Brzezinski ist consulting obama as well is his son Mark Brzezinski and his daughter Mika Brzezinski supports obama.

And Brzezinski is also looking for new ways how to get the eurasia hegemony into the NWOs hands.
now they try to start off the real big wwIII.

[edit on 28/6/2008 by rxnnxs]



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 02:16 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 03:16 AM
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Way off topic, and disregarded as a person attacking.

This is a thread on War on Terrorism. Any person supporting war to grab oil resulting in the deaths of people on both sides of the battlefield is showing their truest colors.

You must worship GOD, Guns, Oil, and Drugs.

Are you ex-military, because you sure seem to lean to the extreme right?

Again, to get back on topic, this thread is on Bush declaring a National Emergency, through the War on Terror against a foreign nation, not for your avatar hating ways.




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Quoting - Please review this link

[edit on 28-6-2008 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by Grafilthy
Why is the last line being ignored....



Congress may modify, rescind, or render dormant such delegated emergency authority.


????

It's up to congress to stop them.

Why would congress stop them?There is no two party system it has become one party run by the corporations.They keep the illusion of two so the sheep believe things are getting better.When it counts where are the two partys? Bush commits the crime.Pelosi protects him.Bush wants immunity for the telecoms.Pelosi rams it thru.The only difference between the two major partys today are the rights they want to take away from the people and the way in which they will do so.They all sware an oath to the constitution.How many of them pay any attention to it?A few people are waking up to that fact however there are still to many sheep to convince.As long as they let the sheep have thier two cars and tv in every room thier safe.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 08:41 AM
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Go to the source and read the whole order. Rules abotu trading and assets of NK are about to expire. He just reinposed them. Twisted tangle of legal mumbo jumbo.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 08:41 AM
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Go to the source and read the whole order. Rules abotu trading and assets of NK are about to expire. He just reinposed them. Twisted tangle of legal mumbo jumbo.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
I am really tired of the Bush bashing. He is just doing things by the book so to speak. Yes the war in Iraq was a mistake, but come on...We will have a new POTUS after the election. Calm down. Gore lost, Kerry lost and Obama will loose
Sorry had to toss in the last one. BTW I am one of the 30 percent who like Bush. So bash us not him. Respect the office.


Heh. Gore won. But Jebbie had major election "anomalies" and rather than recount, Bush was appointed. Kerry won, but Diebold, et al, with their opaque code, we could not prove that the statistically impossible exit poll skew in Ohio was because the machines were rigged.

As for Obama... He will win - IF there is an election. There is no way that they could explain away exit poll results (not to mention the fact that so many of us are sick of the Republicans and see McCain as an extension of the Bush regime...).

However, if there is an election, and Obama wins, he had better watch his back.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 10:08 AM
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i think the President is doing a flanking action,

he's saying the plutonium processed by North Korea was done with the engineering expertise of the Iran nuclear scientists...

so that even in the 45 day grace period, where N.K. is gradually welcomed back into the global community after providing proof that all fissable materials are surrendered and accounted for...
that IRAN is still the rogue terror-supporting state that US policy insisted it was, and intent on exporting WMD technology to any other rogue nation-states.


ultimate goal to take out Irans nuclear capabilities.
which will serve two equally important strategic results,

one: contain the eur-asian renegade nation of Iran from achieving regional dominance

two: the USA as the unilateral, global policeman, the administratrion and the national policy will revive the theme
"veni - vidi - vici" ( I came, I saw, I conquered)
first made famous by Julius Caesar in 47BC. and will now be the rally call of American nationalism

[Note-> it is interesting that in the Isisian Numbering Code
the 'V' has a value of 6...
and the phrase Veni, Vidi, Vici shortened to VVV would translate as =>
666 ! ] ~ but what does that off the wall tangent have to do with this issue ~

two a: the administration will use this nation's Use Of Force
as the platform to make the USDollar once again the global Reserve unit and the valuable standard again (or we will bring our full attention on any dissenting nation)
the fiat money system is broken, only because the west has not coerced or dictated to the world how it will run its economic, trade and commerce markets.
the threat of strategic mini-nukes, under the authority of the VVV principle,
will recussitate USA hegemony, resulting in the full fledged arrival of the 666, the NWO, the allogorical 1st & 2nd Beasts, the AC empire...etc


Why?
because it's Time !
and i sincerely think that the above storyline, or something similar, could become reality.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 10:15 AM
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There was a law blocking anyone from dealing with North Korea. Bush had to do this to make deals through diplomacy as it states.
This was the only fast way to get through the red tape so we could move on with the agreements.

Some of you need to relax and actually read what it says. This is the only way he could make an agreement with North Korea without needing to go to Congress first and have them drag it out for the next two year.

Do you get it now?



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Grafilthy
Why is the last line being ignored....



Congress may modify, rescind, or render dormant such delegated emergency authority.


????

It's up to congress to stop them. Thats checks and balances.
Maybe we should all start sending them Viagra, so they will stand up to this administration and say:

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Come on! Gimme a break. Congress may modify, rescind, or render dorman such delegated emergency authority, UNTIL SUCH TIME as the 'President' shall abolish said Congress in such an emergency.
Now he may leave Congress as window dressing, but he already now has the power to veto ANYTHING the Congress or courts do. IE no balance of powers, as if there were opposing sides in this. They say different things while campaigning, but then do exactly the same thing. Same agenda. And it is NWO, and not American. And if Congress and the Supreme Court appear to be intact, who is going to rebel against such tyranny? And what press is going to counter? The press is already controlled and monopolized. You know that. The web is a new twist they didn't plan for. China is controlling it, but on a much smaller scale. We have not been 'free' for a long, long time. Get over it.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 12:15 PM
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From the very same source on the very same day:



Termination of the Exercise of Authorities Under the Trading with the Enemy Act with Enemy Act with Respect to North Korea
A Proclamation by the President of the United States of America


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I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 101(b) of Public Law 95-223 (91 Stat. 1625; 50 U.S.C. App. 5(b) note), hereby find that the continuation of the exercise of authorities under the Trading With the Enemy Act (50 U.S.C. App. 1 et seq.) (TWEA) with respect to North Korea, as authorized in Proclamation 2914 of December 16, 1950, most recently continued under Presidential Determination 2007-32 of September 13, 2007 (72 FR 53407), and implemented by the regulations set forth below, is no longer in the national interest of the United States.

Section 1. The exercise of TWEA authorities with respect to North Korea, which were implemented by the Foreign Assets Control Regulations, 31 C.F.R. part 500, and the Transaction Control Regulations, 31 C.F.R. part 505, and that were continued by Presidential Determination 2007-32 of September 13, 2007, is terminated, and Presidential Determination 2007-32 is rescinded with respect to North Korea.

Sec. 2. The Secretary of the Treasury is authorized and directed to take all appropriate measures within the Secretary's authority to give effect to this proclamation.

Sec. 3. This proclamation is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit, or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity, by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

Sec. 4. This proclamation is effective at 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on June 27, 2008.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-sixth day of June, in the year of our Lord two thousand eight, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-second.

GEORGE W. BUSH


Did anyone see the demolition of the nuclear cooling tower in NK yesterday? A symbolic gesture by NK to show their cooperation in the ongoing nuke talks.

This measure was merely GWB tweaking the remaining sanctions against NK.

As Johnmike said, "Nothing to see here."



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Amaterasu
As for Obama... He will win - IF there is an election. There is no way that they could explain away exit poll results (not to mention the fact that so many of us are sick of the Republicans and see McCain as an extension of the Bush regime...).


Don't put too much hope in polls. Obama is ahead of McCain by the exact same margin that Kerry was ahead of Bush at this stage of the 2004 election.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 12:30 PM
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Just curious what are all of you who believe this is the beginning of some nwo doing? I mean if you are so sure of this shouldnt you be out rioting in the streets?



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by mOOmOO
Actually it is YOU that is useless so far in defending your own rights. You are too busy poking your nose in OUR business and invading other countries than defending your own rights.


Ok, you do realize that civilians don't control the world right?

Civilians don't poke around in foreign countries business. For one we don't have the technology as civilians. Secondly we don't have an agenda like the people the run the world.

So for you to make that comment really demonstrates a lack of common sense.

IMO

Clearly need to rethink what you are gathering for information.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
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Don't put too much hope in polls. Obama is ahead of McCain by the exact same margin that Kerry was ahead of Bush at this stage of the 2004 election.


OMG. The lizard-hearted are doing well at promoting their man.

This makes me quite ill to hear. Diebold will win the day for McCain. Notice how the fact that opaque code is NOT the outrage the media SHOULD be expressing?

I mean, if *I* were writing opaque code, I'd set it up to perform flawlessly until the date of the election...and then hand the election to my candidate. How simple is THAT?

We, the People, have a right to see all code used in our voting machines.



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