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The only hope for this country is democratic socialism & equal redistribution of wealth

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posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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Because up untill now the world bankers have always infiltrated communism and used it for redistribution of wealth in their favour?

The problem is not redistribution as a principle, which can have positive aplication if everyone does their homework and is above board, the problem is with execution and a world economic atmosphere shrouded in secrecy, deception and downright lies.

Capping wealth to say a billion at the individual or even family level would hurt nobody and would be beneficial for society as a whole, as it would allow more democratic processes. This could be done with a redistribution component if the people so decided at the group mind level. Redistribution can leave the rich, well, rich, as the sheer size of today's concentrated fortunes is mind boggling.

It is impossible for one person to even hold let's say 10 trillion in assets, as the sheer physical disparity is too great. These people are powerbrokers, as their physical wealth is not used for direct personal gratification but for other more megalomaniacal and even sociopathic goals.

People have been conditioned in the west against redistribution, but the reality of democratic redistribution of wealth is it would almost unfailably work in their great favour. Remember that less than 1% of the population of the world is reported to own 80% of the wealth, which is a totally unsatisfactory way to organise human society.

Been a while since I posted in this thread, sorry if I repeat myself.

[edit on 24-9-2008 by Zepherian]

[edit on 24-9-2008 by Zepherian]




posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by counterterrorist
The only hope for this country is democratic socialism & equal redistribution of wealth.

We must immediate liquidate the Fed and redistribute wealth equally in the WHOLE WORLD.

That way, a person will stand or fall by their greed or love.

It's very simple.

Fortunes like Bill Gates' that were built by ripping off wage-earners -- he never would have gotten so rich unless he over-charged for computers. There's only a couple hundred dollars in each one. The parts for the orig mac were $38.



Everyone who lays a hand on those computers and parts (although Gates is a software guy.... duh) makes a living; they don't do it for free. So, everyone gets paid, and the price for the PC (or software) goes up. Figure it out. Besides.... look at all the millionaires Gates made. Why? because those people were educated and they worked hard. Slaves? In America???? Please utilize one of the freedoms America provides and move to Cuba for two or three years. Then come back and we'll talk about wages and such.

Rob the rich to feed the poor, until there are no rich no more. The government that robs Peter to pay Paul (Democrats) will always have the support of Paul.

Socialism is what got America INTO this mess.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by counterterrorist

Originally posted by dawnstar
any economic system or government system that you can make up can be and will be exploited as soon as the people begin to find the loopholes, so, I don't really see where going socialism or ripping paul off so peter can have more is gonna help much.


First of all CAPITALISTS are ripping YOU off. YOU ARE NOT A CAPITALIST. YOU ARE A WAGE-SLAVE. Capitalists are those people who own the Fed and own the right to print money then rent that money to you at 1,000 percent interest. (Since it costs them a penny to print and they charge you a dollar, or ten dollars, or 100 dollars depending on that number that have on that piece of green paper. AND YOU PAY IT!)

Isn't that foolish? If the FED were returned to a publicly owned bank like it was before 1913, then our central bank would charge no interest on mortgages, car loans, credit cards -- as the founding fathers wished. There have been only three times a privately-owned central bank existed in America, The 1st & 2nd Banks of the U.S. (controlled by Rothschild) which lasted a total of about 3-4 years, then again from 1913 to present (also controlled by Rothschild-associated bankers, and Rockefellor).


now, if we could change the genetics so that those basic instincts in mankind that makes him want more, inspires him to degrade or devalue others, etc....well, that would probably help much more!


Actually, the MMPI psychological inventory used to match the personality traits of indivual high school graduates with the traits of those in each profession and trade PROVE that it IS NOT INSTINCT (which is the culprit), IT IS PERSONALITY TRAITS, generally, we're born with. That's why cops seem danger-seeking because that's one of their traits. There are hundreds of traits: dominating vs submissive; creative vs boring; nit-picking vs big-picture oriented, and so it. It's really fascinating you and you check it out. Also, it led me to the conclusion that all agressive people should be put together on an island to enjoy each others agression, and all peaceful people should be together in a country as well (of course, armed with modern electronic weapons that prevent nukes being fired and incapacitate aggressors, for example.)

Here are the urls to my argument as of today.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and
www.abovetopsecret.com...

On ‘cold war hatred of communism’ folks who are brainwashed and mind-controlled, and on competition not existing in a socialist economy
www.abovetopsecret.com...

On “getting-over” the cold war
www.abovetopsecret.com...

check this out, it’s the ONLY way to penetrate concrete with an air supply: ‘Mind control protection & counter-measures for ATS folks’ www.abovetopsecret.com...




[edit on 29-6-2008 by counterterrorist]


Capitalism is nothing more or less than free people willingly exchanging goods and services for other goods and services, or for "certificates of appreciation." I do agree, however, that we need to get rid of the Fed. The constitution called for Congress to handle the printing of money. However, since their are so many socialists in congress now, I don't know which would be worse.





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