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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
As for the Rangers and the Airborne, let me put it this way. The Rangers and Airborne have lost a lot. So have the Marines. But the difference is, the Marines have won the battles, despite what they lost. The Rangers and Airborne, with all their tough training and state-of-the-art, have really been blown out of the water and soundly defeated. Just look at Operation: Market Garden, Grenada (they won, but totally screwed up), Operation: Restore Hope, and others.
The Marines are basically a small family that fights and always wins. A true team. And while being a service, the more secretive Rangers get far more publicity!
Originally posted by Agent47
I have no problem with you spooging your pants over your deep love of our fine fighting men but I do have a problem with you making erroneus claims againts the Rangers. Your overlooking some key facts, first Id point out is KOREA, look at what happend to our Marines boys there, not to mention the 2nd Battle of the Marne in WW1, you cant really compare the two because their missions are so completely different. Yes the marines have won but they didnt have nearly as much effect in certain theatres like the nam. I cant even begin to document what the Rangers and Green Berets did in Nam, those guys lived in country, lived like the Cong, they were killing machines cut off from ever normal battlefield luxury offered to your marines.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
By our, I asume you mean the US...
I'd say
1)army
2)Air Force - (think about it: F-22,JSF,B-2,F117, the Undeafeted F-15, Airborn and soon to be Spac based lasers)
3)ALL OF THEM
4)Navy - especially when you consider that the marines used to be part of them
5)AF
6)AF + Navy
the US is stacked and is probably at or near the top in every catagory if you were to compare to other countries
Originally posted by StarChild
Correct. The U.S. Marines fall under the jurisdiction of the Department of the Navy. The only execption to that (and this relates to the DON's ultimate AOR) is the Marine Force Recon units. They are not assigned to SOCOM as the rest of the Special Forces are. Force Recon has there own special command, although they usually work with SOCOM on occasion.
Mr. M
Originally posted by StarChild
When did this happen again? I've been out for a while, so I'm not suprised that things have changed while I've been gone. What is the new unit called?
It doesn't really have a name yet. I do know that they have received training from the SEALs and Delta. Let me see what all I can dig up.
What were you when you were in?
Originally posted by StarChild
I was in the Navy. (Sorry for not elaborating.)
Mr. M