What do you think of our military?

Of our four combat services, what you think is the most:

1. Large?
2. Advanced?
3. Utilized?
4. Versatile (meaning it's not limited to only one type of operation)?
5. Best-trained?
6. Best-equipped?

By our, I asume you mean the US...

I'd say
1)army
2)Air Force - (think about it: F-22,JSF,B-2,F117, the Undeafeted F-15, Airborn and soon to be Spac based lasers)
3)ALL OF THEM
4)Navy - especially when you consider that the marines used to be part of them
5)AF
6)AF + Navy

the US is stacked and is probably at or near the top in every catagory if you were to compare to other countries

I agree with AMM for the most part.....I do think they are all trained well but that the Marines are by far the best trained.

Yeah the marines are some Bad mamajamas....

They are the guys that go in and do the dirty work before the army can even get to the theatre...

The reason I said AF as best trained is the technical aspect of the equipment they use and their track record.... I mean for a plane designed in the 60's, the F-15 is 101-0 in A2A combat!

Yeah I understand your point, but the Marines are some bad ass #ers...I would rather fight a Navy, Army and AF guy before I would talk # to a Marine.

Not that I would want to fight any of them.

I would rather fight a Navy, Army and AF guy before I would talk # to a Marine.

Having a few friends who are marines, and seeing as they have had my back in quite a few tussles.....I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE!!!!!!!!

u us guys have got some real good marines especially ur recon boys
ur rangers are quite good like
and ur airforce build some good planes no better than good great planes
ur navy is ok ur sub guys are quite good as well

Originally posted by American Mad Man
Yeah the marines are some Bad mamajamas....

They are the guys that go in and do the dirty work before the army can even get to the theatre...

The reason I said AF as best trained is the technical aspect of the equipment they use and their track record.... I mean for a plane designed in the 60's, the F-15 is 101-0 in A2A combat!

No navy seals are, they do alot more than the marines do, shoot first ask questions later. PLus the 117 night hawk i do not think is used anymore in real combat.

I'd have to agree that the SEALs are the best trained in our military. Not to belittle the Marines by any means, they're the #. But the SEALs are friggin hardcore.

yeah ur seals are good BUT ur marine recon team are good as well
ur delta teams are good as well but i still think that the us marine recon teams are good
MARINES FROM ANY COUNTRY KICK BUTT!
they probably do still use the nighthawk cause it is still a good aircraft
the british military though i think has this
1. army
2.RAF
3.army/marines
4.marines
5.hmm well the marines are better trained
6.have to be the RAF i mean our squadies dont even get chest armor!

well if you mean the US army then good!

I give it: out fo five

i give them out of five

Originally posted by devilwasp
yeah ur seals are good BUT ur marine recon team are good as well
ur delta teams are good as well but i still think that the us marine recon teams are good
MARINES FROM ANY COUNTRY KICK BUTT!
they probably do still use the nighthawk cause it is still a good aircraft
the british military though i think has this
1. army
2.RAF
3.army/marines
4.marines
5.hmm well the marines are better trained
6.have to be the RAF i mean our squadies dont even get chest armor!

no no no, the nighthawk stinks, first off it is A2G, almost no A2A capabilities and plus it is not very manueverable, it was a good experiment but now its just belongs in a museum.

Originally posted by Dreamz
I agree with AMM for the most part.....I do think they are all trained well but that the Marines are by far the best trained.

Dude, the U.S. Marine Corps is the greatest fighting force in history. What they lack in technology, firepower, and equipment, they make up with flawless combat skill. These guys are warriors.

I heard some really chilling stories about Marines in the heat of combat. Instead of screams of pain and cries for help, all they heard was "Ooh-rah" and "Let's go Marines!" That is wicked. No wonder Jessica Lynch never joined the Marines.

In five years, I will be a Marine officer!

Just a question, but does the USAF get the most funding, by far? The USAF costs almost twice as much to maintain than the U.S. Army, and that is a ton. The USAF always seem to be years ahead. And the fact that they have the most secret facilites and seem to be heading any UFO/Alien related programs shows that perhaps the balance of defense spending is not balanced at all.

First of all Jessica Lynch was'nt infantry (women are not allowed to join combat positions in the military), meaning she wasnt trained for advanced combat (other than how to do some basic Rifle shooting). Secondly, yes the Marines are pretty hard core but how come everybody seems to overlook the Rangers and the Airborne?

[Edited on 6-3-2004 by daeldren]

I once saw a letter that went something like this:


"To: US DOD, all services.

From: Desk of the Almighty

Subj: Which service is the best


1. It troubles me to see such selfless, dedicated servants argueing over
this trivolity.

2. All of you have a unique place and monumental task to perform.

3. Some of you argue that the Marines have a special, broad mission, or
that the Rangers, or Seals are the only ones who can perform their
specialized function. And what about the Delta Force groups? Yes,
they are taken from all the services. Is this not an answer?

4. Take recognition in the accomplishments you all do so well. You all serve
a higher goal, one nation, under God.

signed:

GOD
USAF RETIRED "

Well, My uncles friend was a Recon for the marines in the gulf war. He said that Navy seals could whipe 1 vs 10 recon of them out hand or gun combat. And that proves to me that Seals are dominate.

Originally posted by daeldren
First of all Jessica Lynch was'nt infantry (women are not allowed to join combat positions in the military), meaning she wasnt trained for advanced combat (other than how to do some basic Rifle shooting). Secondly, yes the Marines are pretty hard core but how come everybody seems to overlook the Rangers and the Airborne?

[Edited on 6-3-2004 by daeldren]

Regarding Jessica Lynch, you pretty much proved my point. In the Marines, there is no such thing as a "specialist." YOU'RE a Marine. And you're a rifleman first. Your ability to shoot your weapon with terrifying precision is far more important than your ability to fix that radio. So the argument that she was not an infantryman doesn't hold much merit, because in the Marines, you are an infantryman first. The U.S. Army doesn't work like that. You're either this or that in the U.S. Army.

Had Lynch joined the Marines (which I'm sure she wouldn't have), her chances of surviving disappear, but the chances of her doing her job go way up. If she were a Marine, she could've single-handedly defended that entire convoy. But then again, heroism, courage, and duty aren't really in her repetoire. She chose the service that would let her become a millionaire for writing a book.

As for the Rangers and the Airborne, let me put it this way. The Rangers and Airborne have lost a lot. So have the Marines. But the difference is, the Marines have won the battles, despite what they lost. The Rangers and Airborne, with all their tough training and state-of-the-art, have really been blown out of the water and soundly defeated. Just look at Operation: Market Garden, Grenada (they won, but totally screwed up), Operation: Restore Hope, and others.

The Marines are basically a small family that fights and always wins. A true team. And while being a service, the more secretive Rangers get far more publicity!

Originally posted by ShatteredSkies

Originally posted by devilwasp
yeah ur seals are good BUT ur marine recon team are good as well
ur delta teams are good as well but i still think that the us marine recon teams are good
MARINES FROM ANY COUNTRY KICK BUTT!
they probably do still use the nighthawk cause it is still a good aircraft
the british military though i think has this
1. army
2.RAF
3.army/marines
4.marines
5.hmm well the marines are better trained
6.have to be the RAF i mean our squadies dont even get chest armor!

no no no, the nighthawk stinks, first off it is A2G, almost no A2A capabilities and plus it is not very manueverable, it was a good experiment but now its just belongs in a museum.

Please explain why the Nighthawk belongs in a museum now because I don't think it should until' all raptors have been delivered along with their JSF counterparts. Until then, I think the Nighthawk should stay in active service.