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Originally posted by Maxmars
Excellent thread! Starred and Flagged.
I have often been faced with CT's that insisted this was a solid fact. But I always believed that such a doctrine could not be effected into law without a direct assertion to that end within the legal system. Maybe then, in times of Empire, but not now.
Originally posted by PPLwakeUP
Madhatter I admire your research skills but the name in CAPS conspiracy is really not a HOAX.
I personally know people here in The Netherlands that never ever have paid TAX, FINES or any other amount of many to entities that fall under admiralty law in other words the law of commerce.
For more info read my threads.
Vos v. Boyle (WD Mich unpub 4/11/95); Liebig v. Kelley-Allee (EDNC 1996) 923 F.Supp 778; Boyce v. CIR (9/25/96) TC Memo 1996-439 aff’d (9th Cir 1997) 122 F3d 1069; Smith v. Kitchen (10th Cir 1997) 156 F3d 1025, 97 USTC para 50107; US v. J.F. Heard (ND WV 1996) 952 F.Supp 329; J. Napier v. Jonas (WD Mich unpub 2/10/95); Wacker v. Crow (10th Cir unpub 7/1/99); Rosenheck & Co. Inc. v. US ex rel IRS & Kostich (ND Okla unpub 4/9/97) 79 AFTR2d 2715 (court explicitly found that perp was the same person as his name typed in all-caps and without punctuation); ("claims because his name is in all capital letters on the summons, he is not subject to the summons. ... completely without merit, patently frivolous, and will be rejected without expending any more of this court's resources")
Originally posted by Cosick
I would like to make the point to mad hatter that laywers, even really expensive ones, have a duty to the courts as much as they do to the clients they represent.
There was a comment in here somewhere asking "if it were true, why wouldn't lawyers exploit this knowledge and get people out of paying fines and stuff?"
The fact is that it benifits the lawyers and courts much more to keep us oblivious to the fact that we HAVE people and are NOT people, then it does to make a few bucks by telling a client he can become the principal creditor for his birth certificate, thus destroying all repeat business.
If everyone knew about capitis diminutio and started to break from the law and government, then both these institutions would crumble. can you imagine politicians and lawyers wanting this information to come out?
I think not.
It'd be like a drug company telling its consumers that there are cheap healthy natural alternatives to the dangerous chemicals they selling to "treat" illness.
Originally posted by Mad_Hatter
So after some more searching I found this:
Montreal, PQ (Reuters) - Sarah Medhurst (nee Black) shocked journalists and legal scholars at a press conference held at the Black family estate Monday when she revealed that Black's Law Dictionary, a highly regarded legal reference text, was originally written as a joke by her eccentric great grandfather Henry Campbell Black.
Medhurst appeared unapologetic, suggesting that the Black family had never tried very hard to keep it a secret. "Have any of you actually taken the time to read it?” she asked, flipping open the renowned text.& nbsp; “Look at page 840 for instance. 'John-a-Nokes'? Or how about page 347? 'Correality – the quality or state of being correal." She then cast a challenging look around the room...
You can read the full article here: 100777.com... and here: practicesource.com...
So what does all of this mean?
This my friend, means two things.
1. That capitus diminutio is not real and holds no legal bearing and
2. That Black's Law Dictionary is a hoax and opens up an entirely new can of worms having to do with the fact that it is cited in countless legal situations because:
Black's Law Dictionary is the most widely-used law dictionary for the law of the United States. It was founded by Henry Campbell Black. It has been cited as legal authority in many Supreme Court cases (see Secondary authority). The latest editions, including abridged and pocket versions, are useful starting points for the layman or student when faced with an unfamiliar legal word. It is the reference of choice for definitions in legal briefs and court opinions...