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Originally posted by Zepherian
Haven't you heard? It's climate change now, global warming was too specific and problematic. Climate change allows you to be taxed for a gas emission without actually having to justify it's effects, as it goes either way.
Originally posted by jamie83
How about these arguments? How are these countered?
Originally posted by jamie83
1. All the planets are warming.
Originally posted by jamie83
2. The sun is what causes global warming.
Originally posted by jamie83
3. CO2 is only 400 ppm in the atmosphere and can't have a big impact.
Originally posted by jamie83
4. Water vapor is 100 times more responsible for GW than CO2.
Originally posted by jamie83
5. More CO2 is released when the earth heats; CO2 is effect, not cause.
Originally posted by jamie83
6. Volcanoes can release more GW gases in one day than humans produce.
Originally posted by jamie83
7. Insects, like termites, release more greenhouse gases than humans produce.
Originally posted by jamie83
8. Even if humans contribute to GW, the % is so small in the overall picture.
Originally posted by jamie83
9. The earth has gone through huge climate changes in the past; what we're going through now is nothing.
Originally posted by jamie83
10. The earth warmed from past ice ages; so how can we say that the warming now isn't part of the same natural warming that's happened before?
Originally posted by jamie83
How about these arguments? How are these countered?
1. All the planets are warming.
2. The sun is what causes global warming.
3. CO2 is only 400 ppm in the atmosphere and can't have a big impact.
4. Water vapor is 100 times more responsible for GW than CO2.
5. More CO2 is released when the earth heats; CO2 is effect, not cause.
6. Volcanoes can release more GW gases in one day than humans produce.
7. Insects, like termites, release more greenhouse gases than humans produce.
8. Even if humans contribute to GW, the % is so small in the overall picture.
9. The earth has gone through huge climate changes in the past; what we're going through now is nothing.
10. The earth warmed from past ice ages; so how can we say that the warming now isn't part of the same natural warming that's happened before?
In elevated C02 environments, growth is enhanced for many plant species. However, some plant species respond more positively to these new conditions than other species.
For example, plants that utilize different photosynthetic machinery to initially fix carbon dioxide will respond differentlyly to enhanced C02 conditions.
C3 plants, those that fix C02 to ribulose-bisphosphate (RUBP) to form two 3-carbon products and this directly enter the Calvin cycle are expected to benefit more in enhanced C02 environments than C4 plant, those that fix C02 to phophoenolpyruvate (PEP) to form 4-carbon acids. This is because the fixation efficiency of C3 plants is more enhanced by additional atmospheric C02 (i.e. resulting in less energy loss due to photorespiration) than it is for C4 plants. Hence in plant communities that contain C3 and C4 species, such as those with old-field annual and perennial plants, competitive advantages may shift to C3 species under enriched C02 conditions.
Even within C03 plants, the magnitude of the growth response induced by enriched C02 atmospheres appears to be species-specific. Differential growth responses to enriched C02 atmospheres can result in changes in the competitive hierarchies in both herbaceous and woody plant communities. For example, under enriched C02 atmospheres, different plant species may dominate, while others may become less common. Conceivably, some plant species, and potentially other organism that depend on these species, could become extremely rare in an enriched C02 world.
In elevated C02 environments, many plants also change quantitatively in terms of the proportions of carbon and nitrogen resources allocated to different plant parts. Plants grown under enriched C02 conditions have reduced foliar nitrogen concentrations; this, in turn has a substantial impact on the insect herbivore feeding behavior and fitness.
For example, studies using the buckeye butterfly, Junonia coenia, and plantain Plantago lanceolata, one of its primary host plants in the southeast United States and California, have demonstrated a reduction in fitness of individuals fed enriched C02 grown rather than ambient C02 grown plants. During the early vulnerable instars, buckeye mortality increased and larval development was retarded for individuals reared on enriched C02 grown leaves, which are low in nitrogen compared to leaves grown under ambient C02 conditions. Reduced larval growth may further reduce herbivore fitness in natural ecosystems because slower growth rates may lead to increased exposure to predictors and parasitoids.
Originally posted by budski
I have never yet seen from an AGW proponent, an adequate explanation for the roman warm period, and the medieval warm period, both of which were warmer than this alleged warm period we are allegedly in at the moment.