It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.


Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.


Obama...a war president ?

page: 1

log in


posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 02:46 PM
is Obama a war monger like the rest of the Washington politicians ?

Obama has stated that he introduced a bill for troop redeployment in Iraq. what does that exactly mean ? will these troops be redeployed to other battlefields ?

redeployment and bringing the troops home sound like two different things to me. i think people are being misled into thinking Obama will not start any wars and his message of change is a false hope.

will Obama redeploy the troops to Afghanistan to wage a war in Pakistan ?

In a strikingly bold speech about terrorism Wednesday, Democratic presidential candidate Illinois Sen. Barack Obama called not only for a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, but a redeployment of troops into Afghanistan and even Pakistan — with or without the permission of Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf.
ABC News: Anti-War Obama Pushes Pakistan Invasion
Tough talk on Pakistan from Obama | U.S. | Reuters
Obama talks tough on Pakistan | Video |

posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 02:50 PM
Obama is planning on disarming the U.S. military if he gets a chance.

Watch this video, and decide what you think:

posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 03:04 PM
reply to post by jamie83

i think this video that you posted shows some delusional thinking on Obama's part. China and Russia and North Korea are not gonna drop their weapons. it's a ploy by Obama to make people think he can actually do this so he will get the anti war votes.

oh i forgot to mention you really think they are going to support something like this ? NO WAY......

the question here is what lengths will he go to to try and make this happen ?
if Pakistan has nuclear weapons and they wont disarm...what will Obama do ?

sounds like WW4 aint far from us.

posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 03:36 PM
I wish what he said in the second video was reality. I am an Obama supporter, only because he is the best out of three pretty bad canidates.

I am a strong opposer to war and waste spending but we all have to agree, since President Bush messed up in the War in Iraq, we now have an obligation to stablize it, not that I'm for the war or anything though.

The truth on disarming ICBM's is going to be tough. I bet my money that if they ever 'disarm' all nuclear wepons, everyone will still keep a few. But I am still convinced if we have a good enough diplomat, that we could negotiate some, but not all nuclear wepon disarment. I do not think Obama is a good diplomat though enough to do that.

The only reason why Obama is going to get the nomination is because:
1. He is black, people do not want to look racist
2. He has an incrediable gift of public speaking
3. He policies are vague enough that you really do not know what he is going to do, unlike Clinton.

I am not sexist, but the reason why I would not have Clinton as a president is because of her husband. At this point, we are looking like a politcal dynasty. Bush Senior, the Bill, then Bush Jr, then what if Clinton got elected?!?!

It looks like two competing dynasties.

Thats my view on the matter...

fyi, I am not liberal or conservitive... Neither, that right.

posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 09:26 PM
reply to post by peacemaker33

thanks for your post,

He policies are vague enough that you really do not know what he is going to do, unlike Clinton.

why would this be a reason you think Obama will win ? i am confused.

why would anyone vote for someone that is not clear on their intentions ?

how can you be a supporter if you know nothing about him ?

posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 10:06 PM
Ole Obama sure is popular on ats lately.
almost every second thread is an Obama thread, and most of it bad too.

with good reason..

the elite keep tossing us their puppets, and we keep knocking em down.

first it was gool-iani,.... we knocked him down
then it was Romney....we knocked him down
and then.. thompson...we knocked him down
and now clinton, obama,mccain...

Lets knock em down too......

untill the elite run out of puppets and there`s only the cool
person left
Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul,Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul,Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul,

posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 10:13 PM

Originally posted by easynow
reply to post by peacemaker33

thanks for your post,

He policies are vague enough that you really do not know what he is going to do, unlike Clinton.

why would this be a reason you think Obama will win ? i am confused.

why would anyone vote for someone that is not clear on their intentions ?

how can you be a supporter if you know nothing about him ?

I am saying that not enough people know his acutal policy, so that they cannot critize him specifically.

The public is not smart enough to tell if he is not clear, he will do his best to look like he knows what he is doing.

When you are running for president, you have know idea what you are doing. Every single canidate has to do their own thing. There is no "Running for President for Dummies" (You know what, I bet there is
), these canidates work day-to-day without really knowing how they effect people directly until their comment is made. (But they do know most of the time).

I know enough about him and all the other canidates to make a well-imfored decision. In the beging, I didn't want Obama, I wanted either Ron Paul or Joe Biden.

It just comes down to the wire, which is the best tourture, waterboarding, having pins pricked into you, or electrodes?

posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 11:15 AM
I didn't like either of the candidates, and reluctantly settled on Obama.....Untill Germany. When he uttered the words "I don't look like the others before me". The key word was "Look". I wrote him off instantly.
I had hoped that he could bring a solution to one of the most important problems thet have impacted my life. Black vs White. I was dissappointed.

I personally watched Rev Al Sharpton taking most of the money collected at the poorest baptist churches in New York while he paraded around in a chauffer driven Mercedes. These people were so poor that thier sunday best wouldn't be accepted at the salvation army. This is FACT!
Then there was Twana Brawley. Mr Sharpton has admitted to trying to start a race war and he will continue to do so. Why? Personal power.

I personally SURVIVED Louis Ferrakahn's "Kill all the white people speech"
by running like HELL and escaping at least 10,000 angry Blacks destroying everything in thier path running down 7th avenue.

I personally survived Harlem, Newark, Ft Green, Lefrak City, and learned the truth about black on black crime. I watched Gangs attack Middle class blacks to gain drun territory. I hid while black drug gangs fought over a park with automatic weapons, across from Spike Lee's house and 150 feet from mine.

I've watched Americans who happen to be Black suffer while "Black AmericA" not Black AmericanS try to convince them that Whitey is holding them down when it is actually "Black America".

I've seen racism that I could not comprehend in North Carolina where Whites did prey on Blacks. My rage could not be measured seeing what my own people were doing.

I have seen the aftermath of black riots that were nothing more than excuses to destroy and steal what ever the mob wanted instead of trying to instigate a positive and upward change in Black culture.

"Black America" is exploiting AmericanS who happen to be black.
Latin America is south of the US border, there is no Chinese America, Arab America, Russian America, or any other race or national "America" because they all call themselves...."AmericanS" with an "S".
But there is a "Black America". A Democratic creation that suggests a SEPERATE nation. Very subtle and very powerfull psycological association simply by leaving off one letter.

Unfortunately Obama has shown his true colors to those who see the signs. Acorn (voter fraud) and Sharpton (Race war promoter), teaming up to support him. Ferrakahns bodyguards originally as his protection (they don't protect just anyone), Rev Wrights anti american beliefs, Bill Airs, Obama's tactics to destroy any opponent by any means possible devoid of moral considerations by use of private investigators and lawyers. If you stole a piece of gum when you were 5 years old, he will use it against you as an adult. The worst one... The simple fact he has to remind us he is Black.

Whether Obama wins or loses, there WILL BE TROUBLE. His loss or win will be an excuse to riot or cause more problems because HE is setting the tone in very subtle ways. The difference will be the outcome of these actions. I fear that Obama as President will only act to stop these troubles in a token fasion, delaying serious action as long as possible. Mccain will not put up with this kind of trouble regardless of race and put a stop to it

If the United States falls into a race war, while we are fighting ourselves, other nations and groups will simply carve up the country while our hands are tied. A "Black America", A deport or Kill all the White People, and every one else nation, will be destroyed by the rest of the world in months.
WE WILL ALL LOSE. Human nature is Human Nature, it does not change, only our choices make any difference. The choice to Unify as a collective Nation is why we were the Greatest country in the World. Do you really want to throw it away? Do you really want a socialist or communist state.
Do you really want to turn the USA into.....Haiti?.

posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 02:14 AM
Obama talks tough when the audience wants to hear him talk tough.

Obama talks of disarmament when his leftie friends are his audience.

I just want to see him in front of a huge crowd without a teleprompter, gogo debates.

posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 09:08 AM

posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 09:23 AM
War is crucial for the greys to gain their negative energy which feeds them so it wouldn't surprise me that Obama would in fact have some sort of war, or try to spread fear.


log in