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Sex & The City Movie - Corrupting Women?

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posted on May, 28 2008 @ 05:15 AM
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Just had an interesting thought today. I was watching a morning show and it was showing the uselss hype behind Sex and the city. It was showering certian women and was clearly aimed at women talking about how they will get drunk and see the movie and how they are similar to those characters. Now lets be serious, those women are hardly any thing to look up to! Slutty, dirty women who sleep around...yet these are being pushed as idols onto women and a new generation..with i think negative implications such as women avoiding monogamy, sleeping around etc etc So what does this mean?

increasing chances of aids? Avoiding real goals in life? False Idols? More population control?

or this show a accurate reflection of society?




posted on May, 28 2008 @ 05:22 AM
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theres nothing wrong with avoiding monogamy or sleeping around. besides, the risk of HIV transmission through sex is miniscule



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 05:23 AM
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and after all, some peoples goal in life is to actually LIVE!!



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:01 AM
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*sighs* I'm no fan of Sex in the City. Truth is I can't relate to their lives - A big fancy apartment in NYC, a job paying enough you can spend hundreds on shoes, multible partners, lesbian flings ect; IT IS NOT an accurate reflection of society.


However, I don't think there are any conspiracies or nefarious intentions on the part of the filmakers. It is entertainment and a lot of people are entertained by the SITC franchise.

I don't think any of the themes of the show/movie are wrong or immoral - it's a choice and I think the movie celebrates the fact that women have more choices now compared to an earlier time.

It isn't wrong, it just isn't for me..I don't judge ( ok, I judge a little, but I'm only human!)



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:08 AM
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I think it is just giving the people what they want. That lifestyle has been glamorized for a long time.

I think crap like the bratz do far more damage to women in society.



Nothing like corrupting them when they are young.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 07:00 AM
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I agree with you Karlhungis, but I also agree with the OP.

There is no agenda being pushed here, and I don't have a problem with multiple sexual partners and all this, but I do find it seriously disturbing the images of 'reality' being pushed at females in the western world. I don't care if women feel they are 'empowered' by shows like this in which the women apparently have the balls to say f# you! to the world and do what they want. They are just doing what they want within the engendered materialism in which they swim.

I think it's appalling that we claim to have aspirations for cross-gender 'equality' when women face, no children, are confronted by the barrage of materialistic idealism pushed by the MSM. Things like Bratz, Cosmo, the cult of celebrity put so much pressure on women to attain this false sense of perfection that is based on the superficiality of appearance.

It is no wonder that the west, and in particular the US, is experiencing an epidemic of these psychological disorders that are directly linked to peoples insecurities and anxieties concerning their appearance, anxieties fueled by the false and insincere representations of reality by the MSM.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 07:14 AM
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agreed. I get so sick of people complaining that they are "fat" or need to lose weight when they look absolutely stunning. Im dating this girl right now who is 5'7 and 127 and has this bizarre idea she is supposed to be 15 lbs lighter. Its disgusting and unhealthy, and sad to say, the only reason ive even allowed myself to date her is that i know im moving out of state in a month, and would never have gotten into a relationship with someone of such obvious emotional scarring if i didnt have that safety there. I made the mistake of verbalizing this to her however, which shows also the depths of my own stupidity, but hey. Im just a guy after all.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 07:36 AM
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well put, though again i do believe that in some way they do glorify this life style and show empowering thru material wealth, and mulitple sexual partners etc etc



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by pexx421
agreed. I get so sick of people complaining that they are "fat" or need to lose weight when they look absolutely stunning. Im dating this girl right now who is 5'7 and 127 and has this bizarre idea she is supposed to be 15 lbs lighter. Its disgusting and unhealthy, and sad to say, the only reason ive even allowed myself to date her is that i know im moving out of state in a month, and would never have gotten into a relationship with someone of such obvious emotional scarring if i didnt have that safety there. I made the mistake of verbalizing this to her however, which shows also the depths of my own stupidity, but hey. Im just a guy after all.


You date her, sleep with her, criticize her because of her insecurities, and then add more insult by saying you are just using her since you planning to move anyway so it doesn't matter?

There are worse things than being insecure about ones weight. Being meanspirited and insensitive could easily qualify.

Edited -- Initial response sounded like a direct personal attack, so I reworded it.


[edit on 28-5-2008 by Sonya610]



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 07:58 AM
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I agree, except I don't judge- the only people I judge are those who don't take of their children.

I don't think SITC is pushing an agenda... nor do I think it is an accurate depiction of most people's lives. I can only speak for myself, but I am 32, straight and single. Most of my friend's are either married (and not having affairs, as far as I know), or are single and not sleeping around (because we got that out of the way in our 20's).


I have a wide circle of friends and acquaintances- a few different "groups," for lack of a better term, and I only have a few bisexual acquaintances and a few lesbian acquaintances.

I guess I am kind of split on how much of an influence the media and thinks for themselves. For example, Madonna became popular when I was a young girl. One thing Madonna did was make it "ok" for women to be sexual creatures- who were in charge of their own sexuality (which is why she scared so many men and conservatives groups). I think she in a way helped empower women, which is a good thing. However, I have never thought of her as a role model for myself, as far as specifically what kinds of, um, "things" I should be doing.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:25 AM
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SITC is only entertainment, excapism,
if some people wish to emulate their (the 4 actresses) adolescent-ish,
college age antics in their 30s-40s, so be it...

The show is not trying to create pop-culture icons,
the producers are merely trying to make a buck and
possibly franchise products/merchandise.

I like how there is a reported cottage industry growing around the shoot scenes of the movie up there in NYC, viva the madcap entrupenors



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:30 AM
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no no no, i didnt put it like that, I DO have a bit of tact. We were in a discussion at one point though, and i pointed out to her that i would not be in a long term intimate relationship with her because she really needs some time alone to work on discovering herself and dealing with some emotional issues, and that i think us being in a relationship would be counter productive to that because you cant heal yourself when your wrapped up in someone else. Im not a COMPLETE ass, just a dumb guy!



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:37 AM
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the worst mistake for men and women is to allow television shows to dictate their personality, habits, beliefs, and their daily lives. to let the media invade one's life so openly, i do not really pity or worry for those...it's their own fault.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with embracing one's sexuality. we are very sexual beings. it becomes a matter of sexism when a gender is forced into a demeaning role, viewed as inferior, or used for their sexuality. mature adults make choices on how they want to be treated and who they are. if this means that they want to live their life in parallel to a television show...that's their choice [lack of creativity aside].

it is easy to be brainwashed by the media, but we cannot blame only them. each individual is responsible for their own choices in life, to deal with whatever life throws at you. we need to stop shifting the blame and realize this. video games, movies, tv shows, and music are not responsible for the plethora of hate crimes committed. nor are they responsible for the sexual impurity of men and women.

we are not zombies.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:38 AM
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Okay so you used tact when you spoke with her. LOL.

But still..the comments here were less than kind. The girl has issues, that does not make her a bad person.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:47 AM
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yes and no. There is a whole science of manipulating human thought and it works. Its hard enough finding the right information without interference, but our culture is dynamically set up to 1)hide truth from you 2)bury truth under numerous falsehoods and then 3) to constantly repeat and inundate you with what they want you to think is truth.
Its hard to know there are alternatives when you live in a system like ours where not only is knowledge hidden, but when you find it you are cast out and criticized. God forbid I try to tell anyone the truth of cholesterol meds,american history, Pasteurized milk, or flour and pasta. The violent reactions are a direct creation of our societies success in shaping american thought.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:49 AM
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no sonya, i dont mean she is a bad person. In fact i love her....but i hate how her ideas of what she is supposed to be are manipulated by media. And i generally dont date people on that level. Ugh, i know that sounds elitist, and i dont really know how to make it sound better....i guess i like to spend my intimate time with people who make their OWN decisions about what they think and how they feel, and that means about all things, their bodies, acceptable behaviour, politics, medicine, joy, etc.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by pexx421
yes and no. There is a whole science of manipulating human thought and it works. Its hard enough finding the right information without interference, but our culture is dynamically set up to 1)hide truth from you 2)bury truth under numerous falsehoods and then 3) to constantly repeat and inundate you with what they want you to think is truth.


awareness brings the responsibility and ability to change or to not be brainwashed. you seem to realize that human manipulation is an integral part of life, so you can act accordingly with this information. you choose to be or not to be bullied by that system. you choose to turn off your tv and choose to surround yourself with like-minded people [like on ATS].

if we are not able to do anything about this controlling system, like inevitably emulating the characters on Sex and the City, then what is the point of even being aware or giving a crap.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 09:12 AM
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Okay, so I am a woman. I work with mostly women ages 25 to 45. SITC's target audience.

I guess I am the only woman on earth who just doesn't get this phenomenon. It makes me LOL when I think that the show is suppossedly about liberated women who are "equal to men" in their desires and carreers. All the women on the show do is obsess about their image, the lastest fashion trends, what hip place to go and, above all MEN/SEX. Exactly how is that liberated? Do men think about those things on a regular basis? Somehow, I don't think so...I mean there are men on ATS who find time to think about politics, conspiracies and UFO's!


For ten years now I have been witness to an entire generation of women who evaluate themselves within the context of SITC. Which girl they are most like, what they are wearing ($ 400 Minolos), what they are drinking (cosmopolitans) and their sex lives. Mind you, the women I work with - for the most part - are smart women but they are reduced to high school hi-jinks by this T.V. show / movie.

It disturbs me that the SITC women are going to have their lives neatly tied up in a bow and delivered with a happy ending in this movie while across the nation and the world real women are dealing with real issues such as jobs, divorce, the economy, STDs, violence, MSM standards of beauty, sexual exploitation, etc.

I just think its sad.

[edit on 28/5/08 by kosmicjack]



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 09:23 AM
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pexx421 okay peace. : )

And to some other posters...Sex in the City is entertainment that appeals to women. It is fun and amusing and women can identify with some of the characters...big deal!

What about the shows that appeal to men? What about the "car chase shoot em up films" that glorify brutality and violence and seek to appeal to young male viewers? Are you people going to start bashing video games next...because they appeal to males and often have violent themes?

Maybe the real problem with Sex and the City is not so much that women are sleeping around, but that many of the themes revolve around the WOMEN themselves, and not just the women seeking to please men! In fact it is even MORE perverse than that...the men are often seen as there to please women! And I can see where that sort of thing could be dangerous indeed. The end is surely near.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 09:31 AM
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Yes. When someone starts a thread about video games, violent moives and porn corrupting men, I'll be happy to add my two cents to that.


Yea, so SITC is entertainment. But as everyone awake enough to be on ATS knows, MSM and Hollywood does a lot more than inform and entertain...they shape and manipulate as well and not for the better.

[edit on 28/5/08 by kosmicjack]



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