posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:39 PM
I must admit. I have my suspicions about ATS and it's not just because of what Lear said.
I think it seems like a bit of a red herring to say that Lear was banned for not being willing to 'let it go' about what happened to him. And not
wanting him to 'air dirty laundry in public'. That seem too petty a reason to ban someone like John Lear. It sounds more like an excuse.
What happened to Lear - him being banned for accusing people of insulting him, the proof of these insults being edited out of offending posts and him
having to personally hunt them down while the Admin, who could surely have searched the way Lear searched, all basically saying "Sorry John, you're
banned for lying about being insulted". Then when the proof IS found - by Lear - he is STILL banned for thinking that something is seriously wrong at
ATS and wanting to make that public - well, it just looks like ATS was gunning for Lear and, one way or another, they were gonna ban him. There IS
something wrong if someone is willing and able to access other peoples accounts and edit their posts in an attempt to discredit and cause members to
be banned. There is even more wrong if the Admin colluded in doing this. Either way it's very troubling.
I think it's a problem that ATS wanted to keep what happened from being examined in public. OF COURSE John wants it discussed in public! I would too
because what happened to him is really troubling in terms of what is going on behind the scenes at ATS.
To keep such an important figure in the community out simply because he wants something serious to be openly, publicly, examined seems bogus to me.
IMO, Either there is something to hide, or they just want John gone and this is the excuse.
And John is right, this is a debunker dominated site IMO. Even many of the responses to the Camelot/Lear video in this thread seem skewed and intended
to distort to me. HE is accused of 'ranting' that ATS is CIA controlled and attacked for it, yet Kerry said it. What Lear said was pretty mild.
I already felt uneasy about ATS before the Lear video, but hearing him doesn't ease my suspicions any. I don't know what is going on exactly, but
something about ATS certainly makes me uneasy. I'm not accusing anyone in particular. Maybe it's not even the Admin - or all of them - but maybe a
sizeable group embedded here as influential members with a concerted agenda. I don't know. But as far as I'm concerned, I smell a rat. ATS is still
on probation for me. If this post gets me banned. Cest la vie.
I say, invite John back and don''t sanction what he can talk about and what he can't including the 'mysterious editing' fiasco. If not, why
PS. Another thing that seems implausible to me is the vast amount of stars the uber-debunkers tend to get for their snide put-down posts. IMO, Either
there are a truly huge number of hardcore skeptics hanging out at a UFO board (for what purpose, one wonders?) or the star award system is skewed in
order to support the debunker cause and sway forum opinion. I find it hard to explain any other way. Hey maybe the mysterious someone who meticulously
edited out the posts insulting John in order to discredit him is also hacking the star award system LOL. Who knows?
[edit on 1-3-2009 by Malcram]