posted on May, 4 2008 @ 08:55 AM
Originally posted by sherpa
It seems strange to me that if you were going to hoax an audio of a ufo than why choose to describe it as a "rock" why not something a little more
I interpeted the pilot as mentioning a "roc" (an enormous legendary bird of prey) rather than a "rock". See:
Wikipedia entry on the Roc
(This is just a bit of speculation as to the relevant word on the audio tape. It just makes a bit more sense in the context of the remainder of a
transcript of the relevant transmissions, but is still not entirely consistent with the references by the same pilot to a small object... The
documents that I have seen from the British Ministry of Defence in relation to this incident do not cover this point).
Since I'm getting around to posting in this thread, here are a few more bits and pieces...
This incident is discussed on ATS in the following threads:
It is discussed on the UFOData forum in the following threads:
A local news report on the incident can be found here:
This incident was also discussed on UFO Updates and on the Ufologyinuk forum during March 2007.
Here is a transcript of the relevant transmissions incorporating infomation from two previous threads. The transcript was compiled mainly by ATS
member “PW229”, but this version also incorporates one or two corrections and additions suggested by other members.
**TRANSCRIPT [compiled mainly by ATS member “PW229”]**
Aircraft 1 Pilot …alright dude no kidding. I just flew over I have a bulls-eye at zero zero eight for twenty ~BREAK~ I had a radar hit ~BREAK~ and I
ahh, it was swinging looked like thirty knots err there was something there it looks like a uhh it didn’t look like a bird it looked like no
kiddin’ a rock to me I ~BREAK~ kid you negative ~BREAK~ I have no idea what it was but uhh basically just ~BREAK~ heads up try to stay away from
seventeen thousand keep your nugget on UNINTELLIGABLE I have no idea what it was ~BREAK~ I’m gonna’ use my radar to see if I can pick this object
up again ~BREAK~ I’ve picked it up twice the first time I picked it up my radar broke lock so I thought it was just uhh some kind of bad lock or
potential chaff ~BREAK~ I’m gonna’ turn back towards the ahh north for a little bit ~BREAK~
Tanker (?) Fuel pick up trail ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot Thanks I’m gonna uhh ~BREAK~ start coming back towards the uhh west ******* I think it was zero zero four for about twenty ~BREAK~
I’ve got it again it’s at seventeen seven ~BREAK~ three miles off my nose at sev…yeah seventeen seven I’m flying that way now. I’m gonna’
slow down ~BREAK~ I’m not gonna get below three hundred knots but uhh ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot …right towards you. Dude I can’t tell, something small
Aircraft 1 Pilot very small black object I had it at seventeen seven ~BREAK~ He just flew right it just flew right over me ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot Confirm the object appears stationary?
Aircraft 1 Pilot Well I, I couldn’t tell cause it was ~GARBLED~
Aircraft 1 WSO (very faint) Think it was moving about thirty.
Aircraft 2 Pilot Nearer eighty knots ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot Yeah my radar showed between thirty and sixty so I have no idea what it’s ~BREAK~ actually doing ~BREAK~ but it went from seventeen
the first time I saw it to seventeen seven so it’s not falling ~BREAK~ I don’t think it was a bird ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot ~UNINTELLIGABLE~
Aircraft 1 Pilot What’s that?
Aircraft 2 Pilot Were you taking a manual lock or was it an auto guns lock? ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot *TONE* I’m getting’ him on auto guns every time ~BREAK~ Putting in a bulls-eye zero zero nine for fifteen ~BREAK~ “Still at”
basically no airspeed on it ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot Two is clean
Aircraft 1 Pilot Say again ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot Two’s clean ~BREAK~ Two’s locked! Bulls-eye at zero one two fifteen, eighteen thousand.
Aircraft 1 Pilot alright I’m gonna’ uhh ~BREAK~ climb up beside it here. I wanna try and look at it then you follow in behind me if you can.
Aircraft 2 Pilot I’m at fourteen thousand.
Aircraft 1 Pilot (at the same time as the above transmission) UNINTELLIGABLE. ~BREAK~ Dude I have no idea what that is ~BREAK~ (Straining) But he’s
passed over me. ~BREAK~ Now I’ve got it uhh seventeen thousand feet eight miles off my nose ~BREAK~ Bulls-eye zero four nine for twenty ~BREAK~
Seventeen thousand I’m gonna’ get down to sixteen five ~BREAK~ Uhh two point five miles off my nose right now ~BREAK~ seventeen thousand feet
~BREAK~ Yeah I’m not gonna be able to slow down as much as you are maybe you can slow down a little bit more, get a better look ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot (low bass tone) UNINTELLIGABLE ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot UNINTELLIGABLE outmaneuver him ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot Copy confirm you’ve merged weapons (?) ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot I am about to merge right now. I’m seeing him ~BREAK~ Underneath me now ~BREAK~ And I’m gonna’ get my airspeed back before I
maneuver ~BREAK~ Are you locked or clean? ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot I’m no joy approaching line abreast with you two thousand feet high eighteen five ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot Copy that I’m gonna’ UNINTELLIGABLE ~BREAK~ You, you said you’re at eighteen? ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot Yeah contact I’m at eighteen five now you’re six o’clock for about three miles TONE ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot Copy that ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot If we are well clear I will descend at this time ~BREAK~ Fox(?) are we clear of this target? ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot I uhh ~BREAK~ I’m not sure. Again it stays between seventeen and eighteen so ~BREAK~ I, I believe I’m in the vicinity of it I’m
not uhh a hundred percent positive ~BREAK~ UNINTELLIGABLE ~BREAK~ I have visual now ~BREAK~ I’m gonna fly underneath you ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot Copy I saw it that time and I cannot make out what it was ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot TONE you didn’t see it? ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot Confirmed
Aircraft 1 Pilot Alright I’m gonna circle back around ~BREAK~ TONE Hopefully we’ll be able to see it through the HUD.
Aircraft 2 Pilot We’ve got somebody else out here with it ~BREAK~
Aircraft 1 Pilot Yeah I see him ~BREAK~ Dude did you see anything? ~BREAK~
Aircraft 2 Pilot Negative
I have a couple of relevant documents from the British Ministry of Defence relating to this incident. If anyone is interested, I can try to make them
available online (or find them on the Ministry of Defence's own website).
[edit on 4-5-2008 by IsaacKoi]