i personally think that AMERICA is doing the EXACT SAME THING as BRITAN way back then (with INDIA and other countries)... AMERICA is saying to EVERY country that they should be "more civilized" by changing their government to "democracy"...AMERICA is also taking control of COUNTRIES... i.e. AFGNSTN,IRAQ...AMERICA made RUSSIA change their government to DEMOCRACY and NOW look how BAD there doing...AMERICA is taking control and judges every country by OUR "civilized" way of life...AMERICA should look at EVERY OTHER COUNTRY AS PERFECT IN THERE OWN WAY... we ALL have different ways of life and different RULES to follow...THAT IS WHY THERE ARE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES!!!... who cares if SADDAM was breaking U.N. RULES... its HIS COUNTRY!!!. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES... so we can have different RULES AND WAYS OF LIFE...as far as i am concerned IRAQ WAS DOING GREAT!!!...you are problably going to scream at me for saying this but I AM RIGHT!!!...what is good???...what is bad???...YOU cannot say SADDAM WAS BAD because that would be judging HIM based on YOURE perspectives and that is horrible...every country is UNIQUE and DIFFERENT...each has ITS own rules... WHY CHANGE OTHER COUNTRIES JUST BECAUSE WE SAY ITS NOT "CIVILIZED"??? what is being civilized??? cant answer THAT either because that would be asking YOURE OPINION!!! AMERICA is NOW CHANGING THE WORLD BASED ON THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND THAT IS WRONG!!!

America is run by corporations, corporations are changing the world, proof is in the info, look at some of the threads on the subjects.

i know what your saying. Some countries just do better with different types of governments

Theyseeall: CAN you PLEASE stop INCLUDING SO MANY words in all CAPITALS? Its ANNOYING, and I FIND it HARD to look PAST and TO actually FOCUS ON THE point OF YOUR post.

I'm not trying to be rude, its just it kinda bugs me

you dont HAVE to accent nearly EVERY word in your ENTIRE post. it TOTALLY loses its effect when you cant SEE which words are supposed to be IMPORTANT.


hahaha im just messing with ya.

but on your topic.
america is trying to impose onto other countries. but unfortunately, we have seen ourselves as such a beautiful melting pot of cultures that all love democracy, then places with these individual cultures should love it too right?

wrong.

true, weve got a bunch of different cultures. but theyve all be americanized. watered down. etc.

i dont think u r sry Brittany cause u only came to this thread to tell me this... u didnt even say if u agree with me

Theyseeall: I didn't say I was sorry... I just wanted you to know that I was not trying to offend you.

I didn't immediately post a reply because I was still thinking the topic over. Issues like this are still being talked about in other forums, so I did not feel inclined to reply.

But I do agree with you on the fact that the USA does not need play the part of the world's police.

"as far as i am concerned IRAQ WAS DOING GREAT!!!..."

LOL, you're joking right?

"they see All", you are a very good thinker. Each country has a right to be in it's own way. On a smaller scale, each person has a right to be their own way also.

I just see the trend of our world as heading in the direction of democracy, where every country is forced to conform to the operations of democracy and corporatism.

In a way, some of these countries have a right to protect their way of life, but I think that there is just no standing still in this type of situation, the Americanization of other countries you talk about.

If the type of regime changes being made by America to other countries allow the people in those countries to be freer in thought and speech, I think it will be better. From this attitude of Freedom attained, the people of other countries can then try to communicate their messages of a true type of freedom from tyranny.

"who cares if SADDAM was breaking U.N. RULES... its HIS COUNTRY!!!. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES... so we can have different RULES AND WAYS OF LIFE...as far as i am concerned IRAQ WAS DOING GREAT!!!"

absolute insanity. you seriouslly need a reality check man.

There is a big difference between Britain/India and the USA/theworld.

The USA doesn't have an absolute low social group called "indians" which is treated like #, payed like # and in fact represents just a modern form of slavery.

Thumbs up for Britain: the only country that never abolished slavery. It's just "different" now

I would suggest the US politicians try to get their own country in order before trying to impose their structure all over the world.

Get rid of the crime, poverty and racism in your own country first.

as far as i am concerned IRAQ WAS DOING GREAT

So genocide is OK?

By your rationale Nazi Germany was doing OK and we should have left them alone?

Please obtain a mind before attempting to speak it.

Originally posted by shoo
There is a big difference between Britain/India and the USA/theworld.

The USA doesn't have an absolute low social group called "indians" which is treated like #, payed like # and in fact represents just a modern form of slavery.

Thumbs up for Britain: the only country that never abolished slavery. It's just "different" now

on the contrary britain was the amongst the first of the european superpowers to begin to restore sovereignty to its colonies. the reason why the british commenwealth exists is that good relations were established through the relatively sucessful transition of countries into self-rule. others countries, especially france, fought against uprisings in their colonies because people like de gaulle wanted to retain france's influence in world politics.

the real contemporary slavery is globalisation, of which every western nation is guilty.

Originally posted by bolshevik
on the contrary britain was the amongst the first of the european superpowers to begin to restore sovereignty to its colonies. the reason why the british commenwealth exists is that good relations were established through the relatively sucessful transition of countries into self-rule.

Agreed...Britian is one of the few countries that entered into a Treaty partnership with native inhabitants to secure the Rights, Privileges and recognise the importance of the native population...though some of my people would say it was to secure control and land, but still, many other countries merely eliminated/assimilated the Natives they came in contact with. The Treaty of Waitangi is still very much a hot debated topic, still very much protested for and against...it has its flaws, but, what is important is that it still stands.

...and...America is not policing my country...



Peace,
ALIEN

Originally posted by Scat
you dont HAVE to accent nearly EVERY word in your ENTIRE post. it TOTALLY loses its effect when you cant SEE which words are supposed to be IMPORTANT.


hahaha im just messing with ya.

but on your topic.
america is trying to impose onto other countries. but unfortunately, we have seen ourselves as such a beautiful melting pot of cultures that all love democracy, then places with these individual cultures should love it too right?

wrong.

true, weve got a bunch of different cultures. but theyve all be americanized. watered down. etc.

Also, "they see ALL" post was far too long to be one paragraph. To ease tension on the eyes, he should divide it up next time.

[Edited on 2-27-2004 by 10DeadInside10]

Originally posted by bolshevik
the real contemporary slavery is globalisation, of which every western nation is guilty.

True and I agree with the rest of your post. Still it bothers me to see how it is in Britan nowadays(concerning the integration(?) of indians). It may be something heavily influenced by Globalisation and other factors, still disturbing.

yes, it think youre right. for example, bradford has an unusually high proportion of indians, but they have not intregrated into society. to some extent there's separate halves to the city - one for the indians and other immigrants, the other for the whites. and on top of that, the city is beginning to turn to the far right (British National Party) because the whites feel they are overun by foreigners.

theres a worrying trend of racial intollerence in the west at the moment. the issue of asylum seekers has been blown totally out of proportion.

"Get rid of the crime, poverty and racism in your own country first."

thats not logical - i would think that an evil dictatorship is higher on the priority list than a bit of crime.

Yeah, fixing evil dictatorships is all fine and well, but there are places the US shouldn't be sticking its nose...being most of everywhere. Sure, toppling despots is cool, but how about lowering crime? that's pretty important too. Developing culture? You ahve to admit, contemptorary American culture is a radioactive wasteland as far as most people are concerned.

What it comes down to is cap all teh despots you want, help the poor people of the world- but don't run their country for them. Don't shove democracy and American values down their throats. It's distateful at best.

DE