American Airlines Infiltrated By Terrorists?, page 2


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reply posted on 12-4-2008 @ 09:25 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by Barbs46


Have you read all the posts? There are only 5 airlines that operate MD-80s, and United isn't one of them. Alaska only has 9. American is by far the biggest operator of them. Every airline that operates ANY has been grounding them a few at a time, inspecting them and returning them to service. The FAA ordered American to ground them all because they did the same thing a few weeks ago, passed them all after a check, and the FAA found at least 13 that failed again.

United grounded their 747-400s for a day or two to verify all their paperwork was completed properly and up to date. They then grounded all 52 777s for fire suppresant system checks. So this is NOT unique to American Airlines AT ALL.


reply posted on 12-4-2008 @ 09:32 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by Barbs46


Barbs, again to echo Zaphod....

Ya gotta get your facts correct, if you want a post to be taken seriously!!

Oh, and box-cutters being 'planted'?!? Oh, come on, box-cutters were legal in 2001, besides the fact that they could be snuck in so easily...if you think there wer =compatriots' who 'planted' weapons, wouldn't they have 'planted' something better?

These bastards (hope fits the T&C) pretended to have bombs strapped to their bodies....not real bombs, fake....as a means of 'crowd control'. It was a distraction, using fear.

WW


reply posted on 12-4-2008 @ 09:38 PM by Stumpy1
Originally posted by Zaphod58
The ties were recently redone on some of their airplanes, and they were done the way it was THOUGHT they were supposed to be done, not the way the BOOK said to do it. If they are not placed exactly 1" apart, there is a chance that the wiring will hang down. If it hangs down the nose landing gear will catch it and rip the wiring. It happened recently on an American Airlines flight (funny that the reason they've been grounded actually happened). American did not choose to ground their planes this way. The FAA ORDERED them to ground all their MD-80s and do the inspections instead of letting them pull a few at a time, return them to service, pull a few more. The reason the FAA did this was to make an example to the public that they were doing something and taking this seriously. American is one of the few airlines that can do this and survive right now.

I notice that everyone is completely ignoring the fact that this all started with Southwest and their 737s. Then there was the first grounding where American WAS allowed to pull them a few at a time, and Delta was grounding them too. Then there were the United 747s that sat for a couple of days while records were checked, and their 52 777s that were grounded.

Let's think about this for half a second here. Which makes a better weapon, the 747 that can hold 500 people and is massive, the 777 that is almost as big and holds 350+, or the MD-80 that is a tiny narrowbody that holds about 130. How come no one has bothered to accuse United, Delta, or Southwest of being infiltrated by terrorists?

Maybe because none of them are? (not even American).


Nice info, it sounds very reasonable and not the paranoid type of "point the finger at the terrorists" drivel that most others havce posted. Thanks for the insight.


reply posted on 12-4-2008 @ 10:01 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by paisley101


paisley, see this is the paranoid stuff that gets this nonsense going, ginves it legs, so to speak.

'600 to 800 camps, with airstrips nearby' ??? Do you have any idea of the kind of runway a modern commercial jet needs? At least 175 feet wide (preferably 200), and 8000 or 9000 feet long....paved, designed with weight-bearing capacity to accomodate a large jet....we aren't talking about silly little dirt 'strips' in the jungle here!!


reply posted on 13-4-2008 @ 01:05 AM by weedwhacker
reply to post by scarletm


scarletm, you're missing an important fact here....

Several have mentioned the fuel savings, from the 'groundings'....that's kind of like saying, if the railroads stopped running, they'd save fuel, and save money. Or, if the Truckers stopped, they'd save fuel, and save money. Do you see how silly this idea is???

A railroad, a trucking company, an airline, they are all in the business of TRANSPORTING commodities for profit. PART of the cost of doing this business, is the 'overhead', and one component of 'overhead' costs is fuel, of course. [adding text] AND, rent still has to be paid on the physical buildings, there are mortgages and utilities, etc.....

If you park a truck, or a train, or an airplane.....the other overhead doesn't go away!!

There are employee salaries to keep paying, especially since, in the case of airlines, at least, they are heavily Unionized, so every Union Member at AA had to be paid, every Pilot, every F/A and every Mechanic....and I don't know about their Ground Staff, if they are Union as well....guess what?

PLUS.....the airline had to eat all of the costs of accomodations, and meal expenses, plus the re-booking on other carriers (granted, there is a discount among carriers, but it is still lost revenue).

No, this was a 'hand-slap', plain and simple. Not just any old 'hand-slap', it was designed to CYA a lot of FAA upper-level types, because they had got caught getting too 'cozy' with the airlines, primarily in the Dallas Office, which oversees not only AA but SouthWest as well....this is a POLITICAL event, and a terrible burden on shareholders and employees, and of course, passengers....but it is all POLITICAL, not a conspiracy!!!

IT is CYA....by the FAA. Just read the papers, know a little about the inside, and you will understand!!

Look, if you have a career in Gov't, say at the FAA, then you already know you can't be fired. SO, you manipulate your way into the higher GS pay grades, to help yourself in retirement. ANYone who works in Gov't knows how this game is played!!!!




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