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posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 09:49 AM
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I've only been on message boards for one week, I don't know what OP means.

What does OP mean?

The articles referenced in my orig post are from Amnesty International, a global news service supported by British Intelligence.

What are you suspicious about? ...I mean, what are you referring to?




posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 09:50 AM
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Magazines and newspapers take a LOT of revenue to start up.
They also have a very high mortality rate. Not many make it.
There are already conspiracy magazines and papers out there.
The internet if faster ... and cheaper .... and reaches more people.
It is also harder for 'them' to shut down or intimidate.

There is no 'no' vote place so I'll just add my comments.

No.



posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 10:26 AM
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I went to Nexus online to the NEW website, but it is very old fashioned and not interactive. I thought the table of contents was good, but was unable to read my first pick (next paragraph) and clicked on the article but it didn’t show me any article, it just asked for money. How corporate media is that?

US–NATO's NUCLEAR FIRST-STRIKE POLICY
By Michel Chossudovsky. The Pentagon and NATO have been plotting for years to have nuclear weaponry accepted for first-strike usage and as a means to preserve “the Western way of life".

The ATS online newspaper would have active links.

HERE’s my favorite format for an e-zine/e-newspaper www.thecitystarsf.com... also in hardcopy. What do you think of this (except it doesn’t have active links either like the ATS would).

It’s great Nexus in the airports, but I can’t afford to fly. I, like MILLIONS of people in this country, can’t get a job suited to me.

C’mon, is Nexus actively advocating to OVERTHROW the Fed from being privately-owned and hold the current owners responsible for war and genocide and divest them, to rid the world of their interlocking-corporate-banking-dynastic-family-director and OVERTHROW each privately-owned central bank in every country and make them publicly-owned and interest free like the U.S. constitution mandated?

Does Nexus hold people accountable and name names of where to start? www.abovetopsecret.com...

I appreciate the editorial intelligence at Nexus but read between the lines.

ATS folks are angry and upset revolutionaries who are being stepped on, not Nexus execs jet-setting around the world whose website is counter-revolutionary because it values money more than information – just the opposite of ATS.

While you're jet-setting around, what do you have to be revolutionary about? ...anyway.



posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 10:30 AM
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You're right! You got it!



posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 10:41 AM
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You said: “Be sure to keep certain subjects off of the cover to make sure people don't dismiss it as a generic joke paper you find at the supermarket.”
--You mean a tabloid? …that sells zillions of copies. Y'know, I've never in 60 years EVER seen a person BUY a tabloid.

You said, “Try to carefully select anything that does get put into it.”
--yes, it would have an editorial staff providing oversight, like ATS currently has.

You said, “The formatting could be something like the article on a page or two and then some reactions/opinions on it from some of our members.”
-- very, very good idea.

You said, “Have the opinions listed as from members with premium accounts of sorts so only some respected members can see the articles before they are published.”
--yes, it would have an editorial staff providing oversight, like ATS currently has.

You said, “Something of a unique look for the newspaper/magazine.”
-- WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS LOOK (but with active urls) financially supported by some book urls linking to Amazon? (not the content)
www.thecitystarsf.com...



posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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How about an e-zine/e-newspaper, like this one as an internet and/or street edition? Where you can watch the pages turn? … www.thecitystarsf.com... (Although, I’m sure that takes a lot of start-up revenue as well.)

The format is fun and hypnotic, and we’d add active urls.
Also document the articles with urls, and special urls liking to the primary advertiser, which would be Amazon books that relate to each article …rather than advertising from Rockefellor/Morgan/GM/Remington/DuPont/Halleburton/Bechtel/MI-5/Mi-6/CIA/Rothschield/Fed-interlocking-corporate-directory corporate fascist genocidal.

I’m going to find out how much it costs to license this format, if it’s possible: www.thecitystarsf.com...

Cause it’s so sexy …but, if it’s cost-prohibitive, then, it’s cost prohibitive. I’ll get back to ATS folks about this when this survey is finished and I provide the results.

That's one reason why ATS is great, it's free (except for having to have a computer).



posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 12:20 PM
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Absolutely not. This stuff is a waste of time. I'm not sure why I even come here. I guess it's just fun. I can't see spending money on it. And even if it was free... what a waste of paper!

Sorry to be so rude, but I felt a sudden need to be brutally honest when I saw you all pondering taking this to the next level.

To be fair, I'm sure some of the stories on here are very important real news, but mixing it up with subjects like UFO's and lizard people only delegitimizes it.



posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 12:39 PM
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There already is an online paper like the one your talking about

www.conspiracy-times.com...

You can write your own articles and if they make the cut you can get paid for it.



posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 05:05 PM
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We're talking about one for AboveTopSecret, not another company. And ATS doesn't seem as biased as the one you provided us with. ATS covers a broader range of topics.



posted on Apr, 5 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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It does look like a favorable setup, we would go with the regular color scheme of ATS of course.



posted on Apr, 6 2008 @ 12:29 PM
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As to UFO’s here’s a link to Hitler’s UFO’s Here are the German fixed wing flying saucers in formation.
www.tiono.com/model/FlyingSaucers.pdf which were copied by Canada and probably also Russian and the U.S. Note: UFO doesn’t mean aliens are here, it means unidentified flying object.

You said, "Absolutely not. This stuff is a waste of time!"

You might consider looking to the most flagged items if you are limited in Time available to research the subjects.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and so is the wasting of Time. As you say, this stuf is fun; but, lives also hang in the balence. It just depends on your personal level of involvement, where you want to go with it, if you care to trace historical trends and predict future trends.

No one asked you to spend money on a newspaper -- controlled ciruclation papers are free, paid for by advertisers. What if all the ATS articles you looked at had a link to books at Amazon.com that documented them. Do you think that would help you sort out what's documented and what isn't? Also, do you think Amazon would be the primary advertiser of such a paper, as a hardcopy and as an ezine/enewspaper?

I do. I'm going to ask them.

We’re just asking you to consider a team going through the historical posts and current posts and presenting them in an editorial fashion, with oversight, as any intelligence agency, or editor would do, in attempting to sort through and know everything that could help or deter the existence of the human race -- SO you don't have to waste your Time finding the most important items to your personal interests.

I don’t consider you being rude or brutal at all, you’re expressing your opinion honestly. HOWEVER, you do talk about us taking it to the next level, so you do acknowledge there is another level to go to – which is a valuable insight.

As to your comment about being sure some of the stories on ATS are very important, those are the ones that we’re talking about referencing with urls in the a “News Service” column.

As to lizard people, I’ve only experienced one person in my life that reminded me of a lizard. A German intelligence BND agent who felt very, very reptilian to me. In fact, he felt more reptilian than my iguana ever did. Otherwise, I have no idea what lizard people are. Which is why it would have a regular space somewhere in the newspaper.

You’ve got to understand, that the way people attach understanding to materialized spiritual manifestations such as you and I, is symbolic. It’s not always the “meaning” of the attachment, but the significance and careful observation as to the process by which perceive, understand, and project through out eyes, ears, nose, touch, vision, imagination and dreams.

Thanks for taking the time to respond, a very important part of the ATS process. It’s this very freedom of response, freedom of speech, freedom to live in peace, freedom to stop the genocide and suffering imposed upon mankind, that characterizes ATS folks. It’s not just a game, it’s a spiritual game of life and death, mortality and immortality. Whether you’ve yet come to use those words with personal attachment, that is, you’ve not yet used them very much in such a way to effectively communicate with people using them, that’s okay. There are plenty of other words to used that work just as well.

The term, ‘walk-ins’, implies to the personas occupying a human being in place of humanity.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

www.avroarrow.org...
www.burlingtonnews.net...
www.burlingtonnews.net...
www.powells.com...
www.zephyrtechnology.com...



posted on Apr, 6 2008 @ 05:25 PM
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Good idea. I can't think of a politically neutral country. Switzerland is the seat of the central bank collective, "Bank of International Settlements", the central banks' bank -- the . of the beast.
www.google.com...,GGLJ:2006-42,GGLJ:en&q=bank+of+international+settlements


My country... New Zealand.
Worst thing we have is part of the echelon network.
We don't allow US nuclear powered ships into our waters which keeps 'them' nice and pissed off. We tread lightly around china... we try not to piss anyone off really.



posted on Apr, 6 2008 @ 05:34 PM
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I think I just look at the lizard people two-part article I think you were talking about www.abovetopsecret.com...

As far as I can understand, it's soft-porn, fiction and psychosis that I have no interest in even if it appears real to the author of the book, who appears psychologically disturbed projecting repressed sexual fantasties and childhood abuse.

I agree with you that this kind of stuff discredits ATS and really doesn't belong here.

However, if one wants to posit a theory on reptilian anything, some scientists "intellectually" claim the human brain evolved from the reptilian brain -- I doubt it, who knows? ...who cares? www.solhaam.org... (scroll down a bit). Many people make a religion of their own beliefs, such as the NWO folks.

Astral project, magic, voodoo, social engineering, mind control, advertising, brainwashing and so on do create what we like to call "robots" or "followers" with no ability to function independently.

Often it's a function of low I.Q, or in the case of our current president, no I.Q. at all.



posted on Apr, 6 2008 @ 10:11 PM
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What do you think of this format for an e-newspaper? www.thecitystarsf.com...
It’s also an full-color print newspaper street edition. The concept is to reach others.



posted on Apr, 6 2008 @ 10:13 PM
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What is the echelon network?



posted on Apr, 6 2008 @ 10:15 PM
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You mean for the logo?
What do you think of this e-zine/e-newspaper format? www.thecitystarsf.com...



posted on Apr, 6 2008 @ 10:17 PM
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What do you think of this format for an e-zine/e-newspaper? www.thecitystarsf.com...
It’s also an full-color print newspaper street edition. I think it’s fun to watch the pages turn.



posted on Apr, 6 2008 @ 10:30 PM
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You said: “There already is an online paper like the one your talking about www.conspiracy-times.com... You can write your own articles and if they make the cut you can get paid for it.

KingJames56 said: “We're talking about one for AboveTopSecret, not another company. And ATS doesn't seem as biased as the one you provided us with. ATS covers a broader range of topics.

Counterterrorist said: I just went to www.conspiracy-times.com... it’s not at all what I have in mind: I’d prefer a real e-zine/e-newspaper like this www.thecitystarsf.com...

Also, for ATS members it’s free, so people could join ATS to get it free, or just use paypal to subscribe. Currently there are 10,000 daily newspapers and 10,000 weekly newspapers. Also, on our “ATS News Service” page, we have top of the news with urls, and broadcast email that to 10,000 reporters every week, as well as broadcast fax it to 10,000 editors and talk/show hosts every week.

Plus, it's probably not necessary to pay ATS folks for writing articles or providing info to the Above Top Secret E-Newspaper & ATS News Service, although there might have to be a paid editorial staff to proofread and stuff like that. ATS e-newsmail posts would be the same length requirements, except the ATS News Service would be one-liners with urls to the longer posts.



posted on Apr, 6 2008 @ 11:01 PM
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Duckster - ! - Really appreciate your viewpoint. NO COST TO ATS - (see way below)
250,000 journalists & editors by subject plus their editorial calendar is $10,000 per year us.cision.com... (The only folks who use is are the social engineering firms who want to create public opinion (propaganda) or household brand recognition).
broadcast fax is jblast.jfax.com... at $5,000 a year to fax 10,000 journalists and editors 1-2 times a month. Broadcast email www.authsmtp.com... at $5,000/yr to email 10,000 journalists and editors 1-2 times a month.
NO COST TO ATS (see below).

Duckster - ! - Really appreciate your viewpoint. NOTE -It doesn't cost ATS anything ...because we'd link the e-zine/e-newspaper articles/posts with url documentation to books available on Amazon and other online booksellers for a fee paid to ATS. IT DOESN'T COST ATS ANYTHING, IT'S A NEW REVENUE SOURCE FOR ATS. Especially if it's an add-on fee for existing ATS advertisers (although it would be much cleaner to just use Amazon book documentation url advertising).

Also, I have to check with the following person who owns this e-newspaper format, to see if it could be licensed. What do you think of this format for an e-zine/e-newspaper as a beta-test. One possible good goal of the print edition would be to have it delivered to everyone in Congress, so we could actively combat the Washington Post and New York Times and Wall Street Journal propaganda.
www.thecitystarsf.com...
It’s also an full-color print newspaper street edition. I think it’s fun to watch the pages turn.

Also, on the ATS News Service column, we'd be broadcast emailing that to rotating 10,000 journalists once a week and broadcast faxing it to 10,000 rotating of their editors one a week. Plus, there are 15,000 college newspapers and a couple hundred high school newspapers, plus there are the Veterans of Foreign War chapters, all the Lions Clubs and Rotary Clubs in every city ... there's so much info 300 million people in the U.S. less 135,000 ATS folks need to have. That costs about $18,000 a year for subscription broadcast email and subscription broadcast fax and subscription database of 250,000 journalists and media editors, including talk/show hosts.

This expert system relational database of 1/4 million editors journalists costs $10,000 a year to subscribe to us.cision.com... 42,GGLJ:en&q=media+lists+online The only folks who use is are the social engineering firms who want to create public opinion (propaganda) or household brand recognition

There are 10,000 daily newspapers in the United States, and 10,000 weekly newspapers. Not one of the publishes the quality of work on ATS. People say the internet is replacing newspapers. However, newspapers re the mainstream form of communication.

You gave me an excellent insight. Perhaps ATS should have an official news service. It costs only $20,000 a year (not much for a corporation) to put out 20,000 broadcast faxes and 20,000 email news releases to those newspapers every three weeks all year long.

national targeted strategic press release campaigns and news-service start-up
total cost/yr: $17,196 per year at $14,248 for subscription software & software & web-based service + 10% contingency of $2,848 compared to $500,000 to 1.5 million dollars for a p.r. agency



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 07:18 AM
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Screw that!


We don't need another media outlet for the government to control and feed us their opinions and misinformation.

That is what the internet is for.


Liberal "hee haw" for Fox News Corporates like Alan Colmes. One of the few Ann Coulter tag alongs that are left out there.



But hey I'm all for it if "you" got the money.


What would really be cool would be convention sponsorship or event sponsorship where every kid, parents, grandparents, wackos can get a poster or sticker.

T-shirts are cool too.




I'd even wear an ATS shirt to President Bush's elimination party.




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