posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 12:53 AM
Respecting the terms and conditions of ATS I decided to re-write this thread and to put it back into circulation. I desire to not only keep this
thread in my archives, but I wish to stimulate thought and possible discussion. I ask therefore, that there be intelligent responses and no whining!
One of the major reasons that I feel it is so important to bring this subject back up is; because I feel it is one of the greatest hoaxes associated
with Christendom. If we can expose this possible "secret" regarding religion, then perhaps it will reveal more!
As I have said a few times, I believe that Jesus did indeed exist, but for a far bigger reason than religion teaches. Many do not believe that he even
existed, but for sake of argument let's suppose he did. Many also believe that it is possible that he never died a sacrificial death, that he may
have had a stand-in, and that he may have lived on, moved back to Egypt, or to France, etc.
I have spent years doing research on the subject of the cross. I just feel it is important to share what I do know. And hopefully, you all will share
your knowledge! So here are some of the reasons why Jesus most likely did not die on a cross.
1. Jesus is said to actually have died (in the ancient writings) on a stake, pale or pile according to the original Greek word. The writers of the NT
or Greek Scriptures wrote in the common loine' Greek, and used the word stauros' to mean the same thing as in the classical Greek, namely, a simple
stake, or pale, without a crossbeam of any kind at any angle. The Greek word xy'lon was also used and had the same meaning as stauros'.
2. Where does it speak of a cross bar or beam in the scriptures? The cross beam had a different word attached to it: patibulum'. No where does it say
that Jesus died on a stauros' with a patibulum' attached!
3. “Vines Expository dictionary of Old and New Testament Words” – Mentions the Chaldean origin of the 2 piece cross and how Christendom adopted
it from the pagans in the 3rd century C.E. as a symbol of Christ’s impalement. “In order to increase the prestige of the apostate ecclesiastical
system, pagans were received into the churches…and were permitted largely to retain their pagan signs and symbols. Hence the Tau or T, in its most
frequent form, with the crosspiece lowered, was adopted to stand for the cross of Christ.” The lexicons then altered the word stauros’ to mean a
cross to the ire of many scholars! (“The Non-Christian Cross” by J.D. Parsons 1896.)
4. We all know that the Jews were reported to have instigated the death of Jesus and used the Romans to facilitate it. It is actually a strong
possibility that the Sadducees with Ca'iaphas being the High Priest that year, was involved in the plot against Jesus with the Pharisees being the
lackeys("I'll sit in the car while you rob the store"). It went against Jewish law to pass a death sentence of crucifixion. The Jewish Encyclopedia
states under “Crucifixion” - “Among the modes of Capital Punishment known to the Jewish penal law, crucifixion is not found; the “hanging”
of criminals “on a tree” mentioned in Deuteronomy 21:22, was resorted to in New testament times only after lapidating (stoning)."
5. It was the Roman policy to break the limbs of the criminals after hours or days of being on the cross to expedite the asphyxiation process. But
according to prophesy the "Lamb of God" was to fulfill the Jewish Passover requirement of; no bones were to be broken in order to fulfill the
anti-typical Passover sacrifice - a like for a like. He needed to die quickly and the cross wouldn’t have sufficed.
6. Medical evidence showing the likelihood that Christ did not die on the cross: Joseph Zias who was the Curator of Archaeology/Anthropology for the
Israel Antiquities from 1972-1997 wrote under "Crucifixion in Antiquity:-