How can any thinking intellect believe that it would stop there?
(And the libs have the audacity to call us sheeple)
First, thanks Semper for linking me into this forum!
Now to my response-
This whole Libs vs. Cons thingy has to just go- because it does not really exist except in theory. These two parties gun at each other- which is
contrary to their own belief systems of operation- which proves they are both full of it- and have become nothing more than groups yelling at each
other while both parties serve the same agenda- nothing changes when either is in control. Its all finger pointing and blame shifting while the
actions occur regardless which party is in power!
This is a fact that most people never come to realize. The "sheeple" just pick a pen, put on their boxing gloves and come out fighting.
This does not suggest- it PROVES- there is a third party which is creating this. Pitting both parties against each other while its own agenda gets
served. This party is generally referred to as the ELITE.
The ELITE is the greatest political conspiracy ever- and is rarely charged and/or discussed with any real seriousness when discussing politics.
I am not rickrolling or straying off topic. I feel it is important to reveal my personal political beliefs before commenting seriously on the subject
of the thread you started. I hope you will all see this as respectful- this was my only intent.
No thinking intellect could actually believe the shenanigans would stop there. Invading the area to "crush the fascist crazy Islamics" is the exact
same argument the crazy Catholic Spanish came up with to overthrow and assassinate the demoniacally possessed Protestant Queen who was handing
England over to Satan!
(giggle...yes, I am laughing too!)
It did happen that way and Osama/Bush are no different- not really. Even with that terrible bloody history as a lesson- here we are centuries later
doing the same thing- expecting different results.
Then the argument is: Do you want the Crazy Muslims to win?
The answer for me as I consider myself a civilized person is this. No. And if weren't over there stealing oil, creating military bases on their land
to terrorize them- they probably wouldn't consider us the infidels they have labeled us as being!
Americans are brilliant, driven and highly creative when properly motivated and compensated. We could easily create a fleet of automobiles and
alternative energy sources which have nothing to do with fossil fuels- we could assist like-minded countries and nations with this transition. Many
people would be working and thriving. and that would be that- at least the beginning of that.
My ultimate point being- The middle east is suffering a crisis that we helped to create and we are doing nothing to ease it or change it. They are
insane with anger and bloodlust which clearly poses a threat. This threat increases as we increase military presence. And as you well noted- we are
Hence, we are the primary cause of terrorism in the Middle East. We placed the Shah of Iran into power. We placed Saddam Hussein in Iraq. We did this
to "protect and control" trade routes. We did this to destabilize the region under the guise of "protecting our allies and friends who desired
freedom and democracy and wanted us to show them how to achieve it". We forced our control over their natural resources as payment- yet claimed to
hold it in trust- for them until they could develop a control of their own and properly distribute their nest eggs into the world economy".
Hence they saw through the charade and are very pissed off and crazy- they always have been- but now they have a legitimate reason- and this is the
nightmare we all face on every level.
The real problem is we will not take responsibility or claim any real accountability- even to take some of the sting out. This makes them suicidally
insane with rage and anger and they are multiplying is numbers greater than ours.
They are doing only what they know to respond. They are not arrogant- they are desperate.
What I see happening is our country is falling apart and this is empowering their belief and others who are watching.
This is not about two parties- liberal and conservative. This is political cannibalism which leads to genocide- and who cares anyway- the world is
over populated and needs to be thinned out. Given they have always been crazy terrorists- no one really cares unless of course you join one of the two
parties. These are where the stones get thrown and nothing gets done!
Finally- Liberals cannot end this war. Conservatives cannot end this war. The Elite will not end war (it is likely it is too far out of control at
this point even for them!).
PS: You are right Semper, people in this area are much smarter!
[edit on 22-3-2008 by dk3000]