Buy 5 minute oatmeal while its still available and cheap
Long shelf life and nutritious. Great stockpile item

Pollution:

I live in California and I can tell you that all of the valley's rivers are disgusting streams of trash and Human waste. I'd never want to touch those waters let alone eat fish out of them. I'd think they might come out with 3 eyes and 9 fins.

Originally posted by undo
Buy 5 minute oatmeal while its still available and cheap
Long shelf life and nutritious. Great stockpile item

Hi undo, you are correct we at home keep a good supply of oatmeal on hand at all times I learned this from my mother who went thru the great depression. Also bran use to be fed to cattle years ago because there was not much of a market to humans and it was very cheap. Today bran is in many food and cereal blends for fiber and the price keeps going up and up. Rik Riley

[edit on 18-3-2008 by rikriley]

As the article says "... to not be eaten." Seals eat salmon. Sharks eat Seals. Asians and more Westerners are eating shark fin soup and sharks. The seal population has poliferated out of reason.
A bounty needs to be placed back on seal ears as there was in the '30s and '40s. At that time you could almost walk across small creeks (1 foot deep and 3 to 6 foot wide) on the backs of spawning salmon.

The same thing (with salmon, not bees) is happening in the Klamath River system in Northern California and Southern Oregon, but the reason is known. Many of the tributaries for the Klamath are filthy-- farmers and ranchers are allowing all sorts of chemicals and animal waste products to wash into the little streams that feed the Klamath, and the river has been damed in many places upstream. The water from the bottom of the man-made lakes that is let back into the river is absolutely filthy, since everything that sinks down to the bottom is let out. The river water is also way, way too warm for the salmon to survive. The warm water and the horrible water quality also contribute to huge amounts of algae in the river, which in turn further ruins the water quality for salmon.
I don't know as much about the Sacramento, but it does go through a lot of farm land (as do its tributaries) and is damed in several places in Nor. Cal. The same thing that is killing the salmon and other fish in the Klamath could be killing the salmon in the Sac-- not necessarily a sign of the end times, just another sign of how much us humans f--- things up in nature.

Originally posted by NewWorldOver
NOT GOOD You know why they're dissapearing? It's not overfishing. They aren't being killed or 'whiped' out.

Animals are losing their electromagnetic direction because of the coming pole shift.

You are correct. There is a pole reversal in the making. However, salmon do not navigate by magnetic fields. The roam randomly at sea to feed, and navigate their return to their home tributary using the aquatic equivilent of "smell".

Originally posted by Illahee
This is common sense. The fish migrate from north to south during the migration along the coast. As they pass by washinton, oregon and california fishermen their chances go down. No spawners means no smolts.

but... since it is common sense as you said, why are the fisherman and the 'experts' still perplexed then

I am perplexed by your statement.

Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Pollution:

I live in California and I can tell you that all of the valley's rivers are disgusting streams of trash and Human waste. I'd never want to touch those waters let alone eat fish out of them. I'd think they might come out with 3 eyes and 9 fins.

I am utterly surprised everytime they don't!

California lakes and river are pretty nasty for the most part. Hence the push to "keep Tahoe blue'!

But are you saying pollution is what made these salmon disappear? I would think that would be a rather obvious assumption, yet the fisherman and 'experts' are preplexed over it.

It seems like the fish counts south of central Oregon all suffered more than normal this season. I wonder if the recent quake activity off the coast in that area is somehow related? Maybe there was some precursor to the quakes (ie electromagnetic interference or microvibrations) that threw the fish off, preventing them from returning to spawn. Personally speaking we had some fairly decent fish runs in the Puget Sound area this year, considering the crappy weather, and obviously those were returning fish that didn't have to pass near that seismic activity zone.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
Salmon is important.

No joke, I totally love Salmon.
Favorite is Sockeye - 2nd is Coho. (need to preserve them somehow.)

Sure things change, but it seems that used to it was evolution of nature going a step up - one wonders now if we are devolving due to our own carelessness with the environment.

Hopefully something can be done about it...before all we have is Monsanto fish...oh wait, their pond all the fish died.

Peace

dAlen