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But he said he had no problem with athletes taking nutritional supplements and other legal substances to improve their performance.
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Anabolic steroids benefit millions of people a year, said Karas, including those with deficiencies in sex hormones and burn victims who need to build up their metabolism to repair musculoskeletal tissue. They also are FDA-approved for treating anemia for their ability to help the body rebuild blood.
You know that things have gotten out of hand when Congress is involving it's self into drug use in sports.
The risks associated with these drugs are many. Some of these include high blood pressure, heart disease, liver damage, cancer, stroke, depression, paranoia and hallucination’s.
at Weeks 0, 4, and 8. No significant changes in aggression or mood levels were found in the eugonadal-treated group. Significant reductions in negative mood (tension, anger, and fatigue) followed by an increase in vigor were found in response to T treatment in the hypogonadal group. These results demonstrate that inability to control one's behavior when such control is required by a particular situation (impulsivity) was found to significantly predict levels of aggression over and above age and T level. These data do not support the hypothesis that supraphysiological levels of T (within this range) lead to an increase in self- and partner-reported aggression or mood disturbances.
Also, many sports bodies including the NBA, NFL, IOC and IAAF amongst many others have banned these substances use amongst there athletes.
If strong prescription controls could minimize the health risks, wouldn't these bodies have them in place instead of outright bans?
They do not have outright bans. Currently use of anabolic steroids is being looked into for patients with AIDS and also to help repair torn tendons. Also, according to UNC Health Care – Go Tarheels – they are currently being used:
It’s the parents job to teach children to make correct decisions.
Children idolize rockers. Many rockers use heroine. Should we ban rock?
Children idolize teen pop stars. Many pop stars sing about sex. Should we ban pop music?
She was a liar and a cheat, she told the judge, her eyes never straying from his face.
Monday, June 03, 2002
By Ed Bouchette, Post-Gazette Sports Writer
Steroids have been banned for the past 13 years in the National Football League, and at least one Steelers player believes it's time for baseball to follow.
My opponent seems to want to focus on just baseball in this debate. The plain truth is that steroids affect most sports around the world and as I have shown earlier, most governing bodies have banned them. Also athletes from many sports have been caught cheating.
I haven't a clue what this has to do with the question we are debating but since it is posed, I will answer it.
NO.Writers and director's aren't competing against each other on a playing field in a sport. If caught with these drugs, then they should be charged according to the laws of the jurisdiction that they are in.
Yes. If it is indeed found that Bonds used performance enhancing substances then his shot at the HOF should be taken away. If Pete Rose can't get in, neither should Bonds.
You’ll see the same old Bonds all the way through 1998. Then bam! All the sudden in ’99, Bonds has doubled in size. He’s gone from a small statured guy to Mr. Universe.
So, to answer your question in a straight-forward manner:
Is it the best way? Certainly not, but the results speak for themselves.
But what goes up must come down and that was never truer than with steroids. The very muscle and strength that you chemically build with drugs will begin to diminish immediately the day you stop using them. And therein lies the hook that is going to get you hooked. No matter what you do short of staying on drugs year round, the minute you come off a cycle, whatever gains you’ve made will start to disappear.
My opponent continuously touts the risk factor. He wants you to believe that steroids cannot be taken in a safe manner
It has, and always will be, my contention that you cannot stop people from doing what they want. If steroids were unbanned in sports, it would be up to the players to follow their doctor’s orders.
We aren't seeing deaths left and right due to the fact that most baseball players, such as Andy Petite, admitted to using performance enhancing substances for a short period then stopping. Petite admitted to using them twice. The serious health risks involved come from prolonged use and abuse.I'll touch on this some more in my rebuttal.
On the contrary. Steroids can be taken safely but only for short periods of time and at low doses. The problem with that safe approach, as I have shown earlier is that is of no benefit to pro athletes. They need to keep taking them to keep the few positives.
Yes athletes have really shown how reliable they can be on following the rules. If they could, we wouldn't be having this debate would we. Steroids are illegal in many countries and banned by most of the world's sporting governing bodies, yet we always hear about someone getting caught using them.
Interesting that you didn't date those stats. They begin in 1999 and go backward to 1993. Bonds allegedly didn't start using steroids until after the 1998 season. Before then, he won 8 Gold Gloves, 3 of his 7 MVP's, was the only member of the 400 HR-400 SB club. Bonds was obviously one of the best players in baseball before he started taking steroids.
In 1998, the press jumped on H. Lee Sweeney's first study showing that gene therapy could enhance mouse muscle. Soon, the calls and e-mails started flowing in, first as a trickle, then as if from a fire hose. They're still coming, Sweeney says. Some people beg him to reverse their muscle degeneration caused by disease or aging. However, about half of the calls and e-mails come from healthy individuals—professional power lifters, sprinters, and weekend wannabe athletes of all stripes. They want bigger, higher-performing muscles. One caller offered $100,000 for muscle enhancement, and a high school football coach asked Sweeney to treat his whole team.
Gene doping could someday provide extra copies of genes that offer a competitive advantage, such as those that increase muscle mass, blood production, or endurance. The products of gene doping would be proteins similar, if not identical, to the body's versions and would therefore be less detectable in an athlete than are performance-enhancing drugs such as steroids and insulin. Consequently, rules against gene doping might be difficult to enforce.
I am a bit confused at what my opponent is saying here. Is he saying that pro athletes do not take enough steroids to be harmed, and because of that, do not reap any benefits? Or is my opponent saying that they do reap the benefits, and should be dying?
The simple fact is, my opponent is playing both sides of the field
He is saying they use steroids and it is unfair to the rest of the players
and then saying they are not dying because they do not use them enough.
There are certainly more baseball players taking steroids than bodybuilders. Baseball is a much larger sport. Less deaths in baseball, more in bodybuilding… you do the math.
In a study of 41 anabolic steroid users recruited from gyms in the Boston and Santa Monica areas, a high proportion reported symptoms of mental illness. During periods of anabolic steroid use, five subjects experienced psychotic symptoms and four other subjects experienced milder symptoms. Five subjects reported a manic episode and nine subjects a serious mood disorder. During withdrawal from steroids, five subjects experienced a major depression. No psychiatric symptoms were reported outside periods of steroid use
According to this article, the World Anti-Doping Agency has already banned gene doping. We still have no clue how they plan to enforce this, since the only way to test for it will be through biopsy of the muscle.
It is quite amazing really. Besides the effect it will have in sports, idea of gene therapy is revolutionizing medicine. However, you can promise that it will spill over to sports, and we will be seeing athletes in the near future with these spliced genes.
Good luck catching them.
I am saying that athletes that are taking these drugs, are taking them in such small quantities and for such a short period of time that they are receiving neither the positive or negative affects of them. Hope that clears it up for you.
Yes I am. It is unfair to the players that are trying to give the fans what they want within the rules.
No, in fact I am saying that they are not dying because they aren't abusing them. Most of the athletes that take them, do so for a short period of time not the extended use/abuse needed to cause the serious side affects. That is what we are debating here isn't it? The continual use of these drugs so the benefits/side affects that they can have are felt?
1000 athletes use performance enhancing substances one time. Lets say at the age of 25.Chances are that's going to equal no deaths. It's also going to equal no benefits. It is also going to mean that most of them will live long lives.
1000 people smoke 1 cigarette at age 25 and never smoke another. I doubt any will die from the diseases that smoking causes from that one cigarette.
1000 people smoke 15-20 cigarette's every day starting at age 25. I know that many of those same people will die from the diseases that smoking cause long before their natural life span would be up.
You could also take professional wrestling as an example of what happens to abusers of steroids. Take a look at this list.
Well, there is definitely an elephant in the room.
My opponent is continuing to try to trick us into believing that steroids are not safe, but can be used in a safe manner. However, if they are used in a safe manner, it does not help the players, but it is still unfair – even though no one is gaining anything real.
So we are assuming that the 50% only took steroids once? Why? Are baseball players and their trainers dumb? What purpose would it serve for 50% of athletes to take steroids one time?
Comparing steroids to smoking… nice try. I’ll play along.
This is especially true in baseball where players are forced to play games almost every other day. Has anyone ever tried to throw 100 pitches as hard as they can? I’m just talking about fast balls here, no snapping of the wrists for curveballs or sliders. Now imagine trying to do that every 8-10 days, and sometimes less.
Baseball is the key to this discussion.
This was a great debate. Early on, Sublime was gaining small advantages on all sides, despite a few noteworthy hangups.
GAOTU seemed to make that up with what felt like a possible knockout punch when he pointed out the tradeoffs that Barry Bonds made, which go right to the heart of the question that Steroids help athletes give the fans what they want. The answer there seemed to be no.
That however was outweighed by the contradiction that athletes were not taking enough steroids to have positive or negative effects, when clearly they have had an effect on Bonds and others.
Sublime sealed the deal when he compared body builders to other athletes, showing the benefits of control and moderation.