Well, there is definitely an elephant in the room. My opponent is continuing to try to trick us into believing that steroids are not safe, but can be
used in a safe manner. However, if they are used in a safe manner, it does not help the players, but it is still unfair – even though no one is
gaining anything real.
I believe that sums it up. If it did not, maybe his words will:
I am saying that athletes that are taking these drugs, are taking them in such small quantities and for such a short period of time that they
are receiving neither the positive or negative affects of them. Hope that clears it up for you.
Well there you have it folks. This debate has been all for nothing. They are receiving no positive effects from the drug, therefore, it is not
unfair to anyone else.
Yes I am. It is unfair to the players that are trying to give the fans what they want within the rules.
Well there you have it folks. The players are taking enough steroids for it to give them an unfair advantage.
Wait. The elephant has again revealed itself.
No, in fact I am saying that they are not dying because they aren't abusing them. Most of the athletes that take them, do so for a short
period of time not the extended use/abuse needed to cause the serious side affects. That is what we are debating here isn't it? The continual use of
these drugs so the benefits/side affects that they can have are felt?
If my opponent thought I’d be arguing that players should be abusing steroids, then he was gravely mistaken. My opponent has fallen into a trap,
but it is only to be expected.
The media has trained us to believe that steroids are terrible, that there are no positives to be gained. Yet, they never speak of its use in
Medicine to treat sick patients. They always seem to mention it when it is tied to some freak death of a body builder who would have died from a
Players are currently using steroids exactly how they should be.
They are not abusing them. They are not trying to look like Superman. They
use them to get a little extra boost, and a little extra muscle.
This is especially true in baseball where players are forced to play games almost every other day. Has anyone ever tried to throw 100 pitches as hard
as they can? I’m just talking about fast balls here, no snapping of the wrists for curveballs or sliders. Now imagine trying to do that every 8-10
days, and sometimes less.
Steroids help our favorite stars maintain good physical condition. They help keep them healthy and free of injuries. They keep them playing the game
longer. All the things fans want, without the terrible side effects.
1000 athletes use performance enhancing substances one time. Lets say at the age of 25.Chances are that's going to equal no deaths. It's
also going to equal no benefits. It is also going to mean that most of them will live long lives.
So we are assuming that the 50% only took steroids once? Why? Are baseball players and their trainers dumb? What purpose would it serve for 50% of
athletes to take steroids one time?
These people are not just taking steroids one time and then going on with their lives. Again, they cycle them to a couple to a few large doses a
year, or they use them many times a year in small doses.
All the gains, without the liver damage. Pretty smart eh?
1000 people smoke 1 cigarette at age 25 and never smoke another. I doubt any will die from the diseases that smoking causes from that one
1000 people smoke 15-20 cigarette's every day starting at age 25. I know that many of those same people will die from the diseases that smoking cause
long before their natural life span would be up.
Comparing steroids to smoking… nice try. I’ll play along.
Say smoking had some sort of positive effects also. Now, if you were to smoke 1 cigarette, that’d be kind of useless. However, if you were to
smoke, let’s say, 10 a year, you would not be endangering your life, but you’d still be doing enough to reap the benefits.
You could also take professional wrestling as an example of what happens to abusers of steroids. Take a look at this list.
Did you even look at the list? The first half of it is before steroid use was prevalent.
I added that up in excel and took the average. Out of those wrestler, a few with very short lives to weigh down the results, they still lived to be
an average of 55 years old.
That’s not bad considering the sport. The dangers involved. Let’s examine some of the lower age deaths dragging that number down:
23 – Motorcycle accident
22 – Car accident
31 – Heart attack*
39 – Sleep apnea
38 – Drugs and alcohol
37 – Heart failure*
33 – Blood clot after surgery
35 – Breast cancer
32 – Asphyxiation
36 – Drug Overdose
30 – Brain injury
*Though heart attacks, they were not tied to steroids as far as I could tell. I searched for toxicology reports or speculation and found nothing.
The list goes on. I stopped because it is getting redundant. These people live like rock stars, first of all. Many of them not only abuse
steroids, but hardcore drugs and alcohol. Even with that, the average life span is 55 years, dragged down by normal causes of death.
Also, the deaths start at 1988. That seems coincidental as the time steroids became popular. Well, actually that’s because the WWF started in
Hmm, since the WWF started in 1963, you’d expect people to start dying a lot around 1988. They’d be in the age range of 45-55, a popular time to
get heart disease.
Summing it all up
We’ve talked about a lot of stuff here. What I want to remain focused in the judges mind is this:
When steroids are used safely, they are nothing but beneficial. We have the sport of wrestling, where it is known to have drugs and steroids rampant,
and the average life expectancy is 55 years old! These people are living on the edge and still making it to 55.
Baseball players are more disciplined. They are not as well known for being drug abusers, and are certainly more careful with the use of steroids.
As my opponent has conceded, there are no cases of freak deaths due to steroids in baseball.
In fact, if you view my opponent’s “scary list of wrestler’s deaths”, you’ll see there is not one
death attributed to steroids.
There are quite a few to heart disease, but none to steroids.
Now I don’t know about you, but last time I checked, when people drop dead they do a toxicology report. If steroids were showing up in these
people’s systems, the media would be on that like white on rice. Yet I see nothing.
Could that be because the coc aine was a bit more important to the toxicologist?
How bad is the media targeting steroids? Check out this article about wrestlers dying from steroids:
Same list, no causes of death
They list no causes of death! They talk about how the wrestlers are dying so young, and the very first one on there is a suicide (as is the second)!
How relevant. Thanks for the great news reporting.
In fact, here’s the first 5 on the list:
Maybe they should be talking about the rampant depression and drug use?
Look, you can choose to believe the witch hunt to which you are being subjegated to, or you can use common sense. If steroids are so bad, why aren't
more deaths tied to them?
Baseball is the key to this discussion.
Thanks to everyone for listening to me ramble. Thanks to Vagabond for the opportunity. And great job to GAOTU789 for keeping me on my toes.
I especially enjoyed this round.