Secret Service Stops Security Screening at Obama Rally, page 1
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Topic started on 21-2-2008 @ 06:50 PM by loam
I didn't see this posted yet.



Police concerned about order to stop screening

DALLAS -- Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena.

The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security.

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"Sure," said Lawrence, when asked if he was concerned by the great number of people who had gotten into the building without being checked. But, he added, the turnout of more than 17,000 people seemed to be a "friendly crowd."

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Huh????

This really smells.


reply posted on 21-2-2008 @ 07:32 PM by loam
The story is now being repeated by UPI:

Report: Security relaxed at Obama speech

The obvious control of the Secret Service by the Executive Branch should give conspiracy theorists a field day.

I hope more light is shed on why this decision was made. It stretches the imagination that someone actually believed it was ok because 17,000 people seemed like a "friendly crowd".

Simply amazing.

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reply posted on 21-2-2008 @ 10:48 PM by loam
You almost couldn't make this stuff up...

I doubt this is connected, but it does add some interesting context- however unrelated:



Evidence destroyed in bias case against Secret Service

A senior U.S. Secret Service inspector admitted Wednesday that she destroyed original evidence sought in a long-standing lawsuit alleging that the service routinely discriminates against African American agents.



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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 03:22 AM by WTEngel
I attended this rally and the security all around was lax. There were 17,000 people. The only security measure seemed to be a sign that read "No bags" and "No outside food or drink"

What is even more concerning is that there was an area on the arena floor where Barack Obama came out of a tunnel and was making his way to the stage and shaking hands and being greeted by hundreds of people only being held back by a barricade, and there was absolutely no screening for ANY of them! He was within a foot of all them. With the exception of SS agents about 4 feet away from him on either side, there was no real protection.

There were probably 3-4 thousand people standing on the arena floor, and any of them could have simply tucked a weapon inside their waistband and approached the stage. It really is distressing.

I must admit, I was a little concerned about going to the rally in the first place. Something in the back of my head was putting all of times Obama has been compared to JFK with the fact that it was in Dallas, less than half a mile from Dealey Plaza. Seriously, you can see the school book depository from the Reunion Arena parking lot. Don't these Secret Service agents ever watch TV?

Does anybody think that there was a plot and for some reason things didn't pan out? I mean all of these things considered, it just doesn't make sense.

By the way, doesn't this seem eerily reminiscent of the Benazir Bhutto assassination? Highly popular political figure who is most likely going to win the next big election is put at risk by lax security, which was provided by the current administration that is not fond of the candidate? This reeks of shady dealings by an administration that has already murdered and tortured thousands...We shouldn't be surprised.

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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 04:43 AM by loam
I went looking for any similar previous incidents... This is one thing I found from earlier this month:



Obama Security Lax
Thursday Feb 7th, 2008 1:21 PM

O'bama's security is so horrible, that it looks to be intentional.

I saw footage last night that just blew me away. O'bama was walking across a concrete lot, in the near background were several multi-stored buildings as near as 100 yards away. There were no security agents within 10 feet of (the principle), most were 20 to 30 feet away, I don't believe any were as tall as he is, and I did not see an agent of color either.

There have been many threats already and he looks to be on a standard 'packet'. With threats already made, he should be on 'special packet' that should include at least 8 agents as tall or taller. 4 each for both a front and rear fan design. He should never have been taken across that parking lot in the complete open under any circumstances. Your average deer hunter can be deadly accurate at those distances.

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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 05:27 AM by MrWendal
Call me crazy if you must but I see a few different angles on this issue...

1) Racism is alive and well in America today. I do not feel it is as prevalent as it was back in the 40's 50's and 60's but it is still alive and well, just kept under wraps. There has never been a doubt in my mind that if America ever got close to electing a Black President, there would be some skinhead, neo nazi, racist, white supremist (take your pick) that would be more than happy to take a shot at assassinating him. Security could be relaxed purposely for this very reason. In the hopes that someone, anyone would make an attempt. Can you think of a better way to remove a "problem" without doing it yourself and simply setting the stage to allow another to do it for you?

2) This is the theory I am leaning towards most.... It is conditioning. Considering how long the security for Obama has been lacking, people (especially in the Obama camp) are being conditioned to expect piss poor security. It will continue this way giving everyone the general feeling that "if it hasn't happened yet, what are really the chances?" Much like someone who drives drunk on the regular basis. They get to a point where they feel they can handle it. If they have not gotten into an accident yet, they probably won't. After all they know their limit. Creating a total false sense of security and at that point the PTB will have Obama "removed"

3) Just last night I was watching MSNBC and they were having a discussion that Hillary should consider running as Obama's VP. I think it is safe to assume that a fair amount of people here at ATS would think the same thing I am.... Hillary will become President ala JFK style.

4) and of course there is one more final option that I feel must be considered... It is all BS and it is all propaganda. If you believe that Obama is just another CFR candidate and a part of the Elite, why would they remove him? Could it be more fear tactics or perhaps simply a way to distract people from what may really be going on behind the scenes?


reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 06:32 AM by enigmania
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I think your point 2 might be the reason. If the gov. wanted to kill Obama, why would they loosen security? In the hope some random racist guy will kill him eventually?
There was no attempt on his life, so like you said, there must be some longer running plan behind that decision. Good thinking!
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