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Topic started on 5-2-2008 @ 06:25 PM by biggie smalls
I have posted a few times about permaculture in other threads. I felt it was time for a thread devoted to the study of this new philosophy.

What is Permaculture may you ask?

I'll post a few definitions for my fellow ATSers as it can get pretty heady real quick.

Permaculture is the science and art of integrating and connecting indigenous resources with available appropriate technology to mimic natural processes. Doing so, we take care of the Earth and promote sustainable living.
- Camilo O'Kuinghttons


Permaculture design principles extend from the position that "The only ethical decision is to take responsibility for our own existence and that of our children" (Mollison, 1990).


en.wikipedia.org...


The intent was that, by rapidly training individuals in a core set of design principles, those individuals could become designers of their own environments and able to build increasingly self-sufficient human settlements — ones that reduce society's reliance on industrial systems of production and distribution that Mollison identified as fundamentally and systematically destroying the earth's ecosystems.



While originating as an agro-ecological design theory, permaculture has developed a large international following of individuals who have received training through intensive two week long 'permaculture design courses'. This 'permaculture community' continues to expand on the original teachings of Mollison and his associates, integrating a range of alternative cultural ideas, through a network of training, publications, permaculture gardens, and internet forums. In this way permaculture has become both a design system as well as a loosely defined philosophy or lifestyle ethic.



I hope this made sense, more to follow.


reply posted on 5-2-2008 @ 06:30 PM by biggie smalls
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We use more and more of our resources every day.

Permaculture seeks to solve that.

Every input in a living system outputs back into that system in a permaculture design.

For instance, our food and excrement can be used right on site as compost. A "Humanure" compost toilet was developed by a classmate's father of mine.

The concept is simple: Use the compost toilet and recycle your waste back into the system as fertilizer.

We flush gallons of useful fertilizer down the toilet every week and we could be using it in our home gardens!

Same goes for chicken manure, cow manure, horse manure, and even pets!

This is one component of a permaculture system.

It is all about the design.

How do you make nature work with you and not against you?

We spend billions of dollars on nitrogen fertilizing chemicals derived from petroleum when we are literally sitting on a gold mine!

So instead of burning more fossil fuels and polluting rivers, lakes, and streams with petrochemical runoff, we should be reinvesting our time and energy into our local ecosystems.


reply posted on 5-2-2008 @ 06:35 PM by biggie smalls
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Let me step back for a moment. I feel I jumped the gun on this one.

Here's a little history.

In the mid 1970s, two Australians, Dr. Bill Mollison and David Holmgren, started to develop ideas that they hoped could be used to create stable agricultural systems. This was a result of their perception of a rapidly growing use of destructive industrial-agricultural methods. They saw that these methods were poisoning the land and water, reducing biodiversity, and removing billions of tons of soil from previously fertile landscapes. A design approach called "permaculture" was their response and was first made public with the publication of Permaculture One in 1978.

The term permaculture initially meant "permanent agriculture" but this was quickly expanded to also stand for "permanent culture" as it was seen that social aspects were an integral part of a truly sustainable system. Mollison and Holmgren are widely considered to be the co-originators of the modern permaculture concept.


From the wikipedia source in the OP.

Permaculture was developed by observing natural systems.

Nothing in nature is wasted. Every element of the biosphere is used by another element.

That is the purpose of the design of permaculture. We take a waste product from one element and use it as a resource for another.

I'll give another example of how multiple elements work in tandem.

Chickens love Mulberry as a food source. They also need shade from the sun and depending on what breed they need more or less.

Mulberry acts as a shade and can also be grafted together to be used as a living fence.

We can take one element (Mulberry Tree) and use it for multiple reasons.

One input produces multiple outputs.

Not only are the chickens fed, they are also shaded and kept warmer at night as the tree creates a warmer ambient temperature than the surrounding area.

The tree also serves as a living fence to keep the chickens in one area.

I shall continue in the next post.



reply posted on 5-2-2008 @ 06:43 PM by biggie smalls
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There are simple guidelines to follow when designing a permaculture site. Authors like to change around the logistics of these principles, but the idea is the same.

From the OP wikipedia source:

David Holmgren has developed 12 design principles for permaculture:
1).observe and interact
2). catch and store energy
3). obtain a yield
4). apply self-regulation and accept feedback
5). use and value renewable resources and services
6). produce no waste
7). design from patterns to details
8). integrate rather than segregate
9). use small and slow solutions
10). use and value diversity
11).use edges and value the marginal
12).creatively use and respond to change


Each of these criterion must be followed (depending on whose principles you are using, the logistics might be a little different) to call the design 'Permaculture.'

All across the world this philosophy is being implemented. From the deserts of the Sahara, American Southwest, and Australia to the Temperate forests of England, Germany, and Ireland to the seaside orchards of the Mediterranean, permaculture is taking hold.

New people are "converted" every day. This is a growing agricultural movement which gives the power back to the people. Large scale growing operations are no longer necessary. Small-scale farming is now becoming the way to go.

Being personally sustainable is the next step in our survival and that of the planet.

If we don't curb our use of fossil fuel and food, we will soon become extinct.

What would you do to ensure the survival of our race and the existence of the "7th generation" from now?

Do you love your family and planet? Then join countless others in this Permaculture Revolution!


reply posted on 5-2-2008 @ 06:46 PM by biggie smalls
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I would like to now give several video examples. These speak miles of the success of permaculture around the globe.

Where my words may not be convincing, these powerful videos will do the trick .

I apologize if I jump around a lot, I can't follow my own thoughts usually .

















If you are interested in further videos, here's where I'd start:

Youtube permaculture videos


reply posted on 5-2-2008 @ 06:54 PM by biggie smalls
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Here are some links I found useful in my research:

Urban Permaculture

Did I forget to mention that permaculture is not exclusive to farms and suburban backyards?

This is something you can do on your rooftop, on the sidewalk, anywhere!

Permaculture activist

International Institute for Ecological Agriculture

Introduction to Permaculture

Google search: Permaculture

Resource list


If you are interested, this should get you started.

If you want suggestions on reading material, pick up Bill Mollison's Permaculture Design Manual and David Holmgren's books.

They are the founders and probably the best two guys to start with.

I've met Brad Lancaster in Tucson and he's the forerunner of Rainwater Harvesting here in the West.

I've also met Lisa Rayner, author of Growing Food in the Southwest Mountains .

These people are visionaries. They saw a problem of food being produced miles away from where it was being shipped to and decided to do something about it!

Do you know where your food comes from? I generally do not. Food travels on average of over a thousand miles from farm to plate...That's pretty bad and completely unsustainable.

We need to be growing food locally and organically if we are to continue living.

Check some of the links out, you'll be impressed guaranteed.


reply posted on 5-2-2008 @ 09:12 PM by biggie smalls
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Thanks Steve for the response. I thought you'd like this stuff .

The more I researched permaculture, the more I liked it. Its pretty cool that you can take back your own power.

This is a new philosophy that is rising out of the youth, middle aged, and old. Its great to see like-minded individuals in all walks of life.

I think I mentioned you don't need to be in the countryside to enjoy this land ethic.

Any place will do and cities are actually quite adapted for permaculture.

Here's some youtube videos for you Steve:













I suggest watching the "Global Gardener" series. That's Bill Mollison the co-founder of permaculture!

[edit on 2/5/2008 by biggie smalls]


reply posted on 6-2-2008 @ 12:51 PM by menguard
Originally posted by biggie smalls
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Let me step back for a moment. I feel I jumped the gun on this one.

Here's a little history.

In the mid 1970s, two Australians, Dr. Bill Mollison and David Holmgren, started to develop ideas that they hoped could be used to create stable agricultural systems. This was a result of their perception of a rapidly growing use of destructive industrial-agricultural methods. They saw that these methods were poisoning the land and water, reducing biodiversity, and removing billions of tons of soil from previously fertile landscapes. A design approach called "permaculture" was their response and was first made public with the publication of Permaculture One in 1978.

The term permaculture initially meant "permanent agriculture" but this was quickly expanded to also stand for "permanent culture" as it was seen that social aspects were an integral part of a truly sustainable system. Mollison and Holmgren are widely considered to be the co-originators of the modern permaculture concept.


From the wikipedia source in the OP.

Permaculture was developed by observing natural systems.

Nothing in nature is wasted. Every element of the biosphere is used by another element.

That is the purpose of the design of permaculture. We take a waste product from one element and use it as a resource for another.

I'll give another example of how multiple elements work in tandem.

Chickens love Mulberry as a food source. They also need shade from the sun and depending on what breed they need more or less.

Mulberry acts as a shade and can also be grafted together to be used as a living fence.

We can take one element (Mulberry Tree) and use it for multiple reasons.

One input produces multiple outputs.

Not only are the chickens fed, they are also shaded and kept warmer at night as the tree creates a warmer ambient temperature than the surrounding area.

The tree also serves as a living fence to keep the chickens in one area.

I shall continue in the next post.


Thats right if our governments aren't going to step up to the plate then perhaps it is those individual people, that know how to. Biggie that's real cool you have a buddy that knows this information.
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