Jesus & Santa Claus are Mushrooms

1. Saint Nicholas is the patron Saint of children in Siberia (Russia), a supplanter to the indigenous Shaman.
2. The Amanita muscaria mushrooms grow nearly exclusively under the Christmas (Coniferous) Trees (Birch also [another whole story]).
3. The Reindeer eat these mushrooms, hence the presumed flight.
4. Santa brings presents in his white bag/sack. Mushrooms are gathered in bags, and Amanita muscaria sprouts out of a white vulvae sack.
5. The mushrooms are red and white and grow under a green tree. Christmas colors are red, white and green.
6. Typically, the red and white mushrooms are dried by stringing them on the hearth of the fireplace. Christmas stockings are red and white, hung in the same way, and shaped similar.
7. The Virgin Birth is symbolic for the "seedless" growth/germination pattern of the mushroom. To the ancient mind, with no microscope to see the spores, it's appearance was thought to be miraculous.
8. The very name, "Christmas" is a holiday name composed of the words, "Christ" (meaning "one who is anointed with the Magical Substance") and "Mass" (a special religious service/ceremony of the sacramental ingestion of the Eucharist, the "Body of Christ"). In the Catholic tradition, this substance (Body/Soma) has been replaced by the doctrine of "Trans-substantiation", whereby in a magical ceremony the Priests claim the ability to transform a "cracker/round-wafer" into the literal "Body of Christ"; ie, a substitute or placebo.

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He was referring to "magic" mushrooms such as the red Amanita, which are known to expand human consciousness into mystical or spiritual states. Arthur contends that the authors of the New Testament, as well as other ancient religious texts, were actually conveying secret knowledge brought on by the mushrooms, such as "the death and rebirth experience"

some great info there kinglizard,
good find!

Are yu serious man? I take it you have tried those shrooms before.

That's got to be one of the best topic titles I've ever seen.

To be fair neo I don't see how this theory is any less credible than your Mars Mining Industry one.

[Edited on 14-2-2004 by John Nada]

Then do a search on Santa Claus man, there is a lot of information both accepted and not on the origination of Santa.

All the same this may be true but it does not tie in anyway to the Christmas season which it must to match the current story.

Originally posted by THENEO
Then do a search on Santa Claus man, there is a lot of information both accepted and not on the origination of Santa.

All the same this may be true but it does not tie in anyway to the Christmas season which it must to match the current story.

errrr...ok.

Originally posted by THENEO
Then do a search on Santa Claus man, there is a lot of information both accepted and not on the origination of Santa.

All the same this may be true but it does not tie in anyway to the Christmas season which it must to match the current story.

"It is well documented by fundamentalists (apologists) that the Christmas traditions are Pagan in origin.. This simply means that their origin comes from the traditions of the country-folk (pagan). By contrast, the Pagan origins of most of the other attributes of Christianity are vigorously denied. It is also very easy to obscure, overlook and discredit the Egyptian, Mithraic, Germanic, Norse, Celtic, Greek, Hindu and Buddhist roots by lumping all non-Christian religions together and labeling them Pagan. These are certainly not simple country-folk religions. So to just say Christmas has Pagan roots, and not go further, is glossing over what exactly those roots are, and discrediting their study as worthless. Christmas icons, traditions and stories have hidden meanings. Although not initially apparent, a more thorough investigation reveals far more symbolic content (which is decipherable) than originally suspected. At the roots of this symbolism research is information about the secrets of the mushroom, regarding its habitats, forms, uses, preparations, and effects."
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Christmas has many inputs as an idea I cannot dispute you. But linking Christ to mushrooms is simply whacked man.

This is only the beginning: only a few of the associations between this mushroom and Christmas traditions; there are more. Here are some synonymous names and/or terminologies given to this mushroom throughout history, many of which we will be exploring further. In fact, there are so many that expounding upon them could take a lifetime, therefore, obviously, this list is not all-inclusive. The Egyptian term; "the God of a thousand names" begins to make sense as this research begins to encompass so many other traditions, mythologies and religions.
1. SOMA (Hindu plant-god). Soma is also Greek for "body".
2. Amrita (Buddhist Magical Sacrament).
3. Ambrosia (Greek, "Food of the Gods").
4. The Holy Grail (note the Grail-like shape of the upturned muscaria mushroom; "Vessel containing the blood of the God").
5. Fruit of the Tree of life: Fruit of the Tree = the mushroom; the main body (mycellium) growing underground in a
6. Symbiotic relationship with the Pine tree.
7. The Golden Fleece
8. The Fountain of Youth: Ponce De' Leon is likely to have unknowingly kicked over the very thing for which he was searching; the red muscaria grows under Longleaf Pine in northern Florida in December.
9. Haoma: Islamic Sacrament.
10. Manna: There are two kinds in the Bible; see John ch. 6 to 14. Manna means "mushroom".
11. Bread of Life: Yes, it's the "Loaf of Bliss".
12. Fountain of Living Waters: Its alive, 90% water, and shaped like a fountain.
13. Hidden Manna: See Rev. 2:17
14. The Cosmic Egg, The Easter Egg (What are we really mimicking at Easter? The mushroom hunt, OF COURSE).
15. The Prima Materia/Philosophers stone: The secret substance of the Alchemists (Get Clark Heinrich's book "Strange Fruit" for this one; fascinating!).
16. Soma: The Hindu plant God and elixir of immortality.
17. The Flesh of the God: The mushroom is very flesh-like and is depicted so.
18. The Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge/Life.
19. The Flesh of Jesus, and other Gods (Take and eat. This is my "body" [Greek, "SOMA"]).
20. The Hammer of Thor: The shape is obvious. Thor throws his mushroom-shaped hammer to the ground in a bolt of lightning and a mighty thunderous CRACK. Lightning is the mythical creator of the mushroom.
21. The Small White Stone: The infant state of the mushroom resembles a small white stone.
22. The Elixir of Immortality: The churning-of-the-milky-ocean myth describes this in a phenomenal way.
23. The Feathered Serpent: From its first egg-state to its snake-looking second state, then shedding its universal veil (shedding its skin) and finally upturning its cap (gills resembling feathers). The feathered serpent is cosmopolitan in its symbology.
24. The Phoenix: From the ashes (spores) the egg appears. Then comes the upturned cap resembling a gold and red colored bird (the gills as feathers). Then the heat (sun) burns the mushroom and it dissolves, once again leaving only ashes (spores), and finally repeating the whole cycle.
25. Ankh: Waters and life, or the waters of life in Egypt.
26. Rudra: The Hindu red god of the forest.
27. Djed: The phallus or pillar of Osiris.
28. The One Eyed Howler: The round eye shape which represents the vision of the universe.
29. The Eye of Horus: (Djed-Eye) Sound familiar?
30. The World Tree: The mushroom is thought to be the creator of the world, in many cultures.
31. Celestial Food: The food of the Gods in the Egyptian "Book of the dead".
32. Aten: The Egyptian winged-disc.
33. Fly Agaric: Although "Fly" is commonly thought of in association with the "House-fly", there is also evidence that it refers to the act of "flying", as in taking spiritual flight.

kinglizard,

convenient name for this debate btw.

it is like this man, shrooms can help to open the portal between realms within the mind of humans but it of course does not work for everyone and there is a loss of control by the operator too.

that is the only connection between shrooms and the prophet (one of many that is), that came to earth to tell us about the spiritual realms.

I believe that guy was on coasttocoastam awhile back.
Truly insane. Promoting eating deadly mushrooms???

8. The very name, "Christmas" is a holiday name composed of the words, "Christ" (meaning "one who is anointed with the Magical Substance") and "Mass" (a special religious service/ceremony of the sacramental ingestion of the Eucharist, the "Body of Christ"). In the Catholic tradition, this substance (Body/Soma) has been replaced by the doctrine of "Trans-substantiation", whereby in a magical ceremony the Priests claim the ability to transform a "cracker/round-wafer" into the literal "Body of Christ"; ie, a substitute or placebo.


Would this "magical substance" be nothing more than holy water?

As far as I can see this has nothing to do with Jesjuah, but the Church and who they are protecting themselves against. Like Mosche, Jesjuah prooved he could do all the stuff magicans wondermakers could, only he really did it. However, there is a magical side to the Passover bread meal too. When you eat unleavened bread together with wine, the fermentation process starts inside your stumac. This way you will stay warm and will need alot less food than normal.

As for the bread from Heaven, the mystical Manna of Exodus, I guess we are talking about an old phenomena called Ergotism, a fungus called Claviceps Purpurea in Latin which produce the ever infamous lysergic acid '___'. Nostradamus used it, Homer and Plato loved it etc. etc. But if you eat bread over a long period of time contaminated with flour made of this mushroom, you will soon get to know what is meant with st. Anthony's Fire, and when you have been treated, you will also better understand what went wrong in the Dark Ages. I won't recommend it.....

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 14-2-2004 by Hamilton]

WTF?!?!??!! LOL!!! ONE OF THE FUNNIEST POSTS IVE EVER READ! HAAAHAHAHHAHAHA

Hamilton,

a lot of valid points there. So our lizard friend is partly correct as I expected but only partly.

Originally posted by THENEO
Hamilton,

a lot of valid points there. So our lizard friend is partly correct as I expected but only partly.

Well, I wouldn't say that Different kinds of fungus and plants have been used in just about all cultures around, in initiation rites, shaman cermonies and spirit flights. Do you know why they say that witches flew to Bloksberg on brooms during their witch sabbaths? Hehe, this is actually true: It was because they took their usual broom and rubbed it in real good with a mixture of ceveral halucinogenic agents. Then they rode it if you see what I mean, and this whole rite was called "to have sex with Satan". Get it? The witches probably did it in this way in order to at the same time show their arrogance towards the Church's may I add twisted view uppon sex as something sinful. They can't even keep their hands off children and they say sex between adults is sin? Satans.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 14-2-2004 by Hamilton]

Originally posted by silQ
WTF?

Or spelled out: World Trade Federation

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Originally posted by Hamilton

Originally posted by silQ
WTF?

Or spelled out: World Trade Federation

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Good one!

Originally posted by kinglizard

Originally posted by Hamilton

Originally posted by silQ
WTF?

Or spelled out: World Trade Federation

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Good one!

Flattered, but also correct. As usual

Blessings,
Mikromarius