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Caught on video: Interdimensional entity?

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posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 05:56 PM
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The last thread about this video was about a week ago - see the list of relevant threads below. For ease of reference, I'll repeat a bit of information I've posted previously.


Some press reports suggest that the relevant kids admitted that this was a hoax. The full story is a bit more complicated...


I'll cut and paste below some details from my database of infamous UFO videos.

This video, captured using a mobile phone, supposedly features an alien hiding behind a lamp post. It was purportedly filmed on 20 March 2005 in Fraccionamiento del Parque in eastern Merida, Yucatan (one of the states of Mexico). The individuals within the video include Jose Alonso Herrera and David Espada.

Daniel Barquet, a reporter for “Milenio” (see milenio.com), wrote an article dated 17 January 2006 which reported that the video was a hoax. The article (helpfully translated into English by Scott Corrales of the Institute of Hispanic Ufology) is at:
www.virtuallystrange.net...

His article included the following:

“Authors of the ‘jape’ disclosed that they did it merely to ‘to mock’ [Mexican ufologist Jaime Maussan] and try to ‘get some dough’ out of him. The prank, which ‘even passed the analysis with special equipment’, was made with a mask that one of the participants purchased during last year's carnival in Yucatan's capital city.”

However, the sources of the relevant information are not clear from the face of the article. The relevant remarks in quotation marks are not attributed to any of the alleged hoaxers. Instead, the comments appear to have come from Sergio Valdez Diaz, a member of the “Centro de Investigacion de Fenomenos Paranormales” (also of "Misterios de Merida" magazine), who claimed that “all the youths involved were aware of the deception but decided to maintain it, partly because they hoped to obtain money through their hoax.".

The following day, a further article by Daniel Barquet for “Milenio”, included various comments attributed to Jaime Maussan and one of the youths in the video (Jose Alonso Herrera). Herrera denied that the video was a fake. He also said that at no time did they ask for money in exchange for the images. He commented “The papers said that our sister had a mask and who knows what else. But haven't made any statements. The problem is that the papers here made them up on their own.” This second article has also been translated into English by Scott Corrales, at:
www.virtuallystrange.net...

A slightly bizarre email by Santiago Yturria (apparently based in part of the second “Milenio” article) states that “Sergio Valdez Diaz was accused along with Jorge Moreno of attempting to bribe some children from the neighborhood offering 1,000 pesos to the one that agreed to say that he was disguised as an alien the night of the incident” and that “Some researchers from Merida located one of these children and got his statement on tape as evidence in a formal denunciation of Sergio Valdez and Jorge Moreno for corruption of minors. They are expected to be arrested sometime this weekend”. [!!] See:

www.virtuallystrange.net...

Santiagio Yturria has written a more detailed article about the video on the Rense.com website. That article contends that “Both David Espada and Jose Herrera are well known boys in their neighborhood and school. They are honest and incapable of inventing such a story or perpetrating a hoax.” He concludes that “This is certainly a unique case of a rare nature not common in Ufology...a bizarre and fascinating story with important elements and solid evidence. For this research team, the case represents a major challenge.” See:
www.rense.com...


Researcher Greg Boone has commented on the video on UFO Updates at:
www.virtuallystrange.net...

Tracing the various articles back, there are many comments on a blog which (??first) put image on the Internet on 17 December 2005:
www.lacoctelera.com...

The video has since been discussed on numerous UFO forums (on many of those forums, links to the video has been posted on more than occasion).

For example, on abovetopsecret.com, relevant discussion threads include the following:
“Yet Another Mexico Vid”:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

“Alien Abduction caught on Camera Phone!!”:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
“Alleged abduction caught with cell phone???”:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


“alien abduction film hoaxed?”:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

“Alien abduction attempt *Video*”
www.abovetopsecret.com...

“Alien in Mexico?”
www.abovetopsecret.com...

“Alien Mexico”
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

“Caught on video: Interdimensional entity?”
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Discussion on alien-ufos.com:
“Bizarre Alien Encounter”
www.alien-ufos.com...

“Alien filmed on cell phone (Merida/Mexico)”
www.alien-ufos.com...

“Real alien caught on tape”
www.alien-ufos.com...
What do you make of it?
www.alien-ufos.com...


I’ll embed the video below:




posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 08:00 PM
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However, the sources of the relevant information are not clear from the face of the article. The relevant remarks in quotation marks are not attributed to any of the alleged hoaxers. Instead, the comments appear to have come from Sergio Valdez Diaz, a member of the “Centro de Investigacion de Fenomenos Paranormales” (also of "Misterios de Merida" magazine), who claimed that “all the youths involved were aware of the deception but decided to maintain it, partly because they hoped to obtain money through their hoax.".


well, according from what I've seen and heard from Mexican TV show called "La Oreja", Sergio Valdez Diaz said that He liked Jaime Maussan and wanted to meet him personally for what reason i don't know but Maussan turned to be against him somewhat. Maussan said that Sergio should leave the ghost alone and that he was just disturbing the entities trying to find peace in some way.
Now that really upset Sergio and he didn't like Maussan for that reason so from what I've heard, he accused Maussan for several things such as "he is faking his UFO files" and he also accused him for being a idiot or something if I'm correct. I'm only writing from what I've heard from TV and the show. It was a big topic at that moment. it was probably around when the Area51 alien interview was new and Maussan showed it in Mexico. I think it was around 2004 or 5 i cant remember correctly but that is the also the main reason why so many now believe Maussan is an total fraud and a easily fooled monk. i can't see why he would be such a fraud and easily fooled :/, he is only an investigator.

(by the way, you will have to excuse my English.)



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 08:36 PM
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About Maussan's reliability i'd say that he has some issues to say the least: he should never be takens seriously, IMHO.

Some Maussan's claims and facts:



  • CLAIM: Maussan claims the photo below was the best photo ever taken of a giant UFO in space.


    FACT: The photo appearing in the October 6, 1997 issue of "Contacto Ovni Magazine" is actually that of a galaxy forming, not a UFO.


  • CLAIM: Maussan claims 'Dr.Reed' UFO case is real and scientific evidence supports it. Maussan claims his alleged intelligence contacts within the military warned him that the case is real and very dangerous. Maussan takes 'Dr.Reed' on a national speaking tour of Mexico and creates a media campaign to promote the case. These speaking engagements sell out at many locations.

    FACT: 'Dr.Reed' and his entire case have been exposed as a fraud. Maussan is challenged to produce his alleged scientific evidence and fails. Maussan and associates claim to have thoroughly investigated 'Dr.Reed' and to have established his claims, evidence, and witnesses. Claims of an alleged alien device being of extraterrestrial origin are never proven in spite of Maussan claiming the bunk device utilized advanced nano-technology. Not a grain of proof is ever forthcoming from Maussan to back any of his claims.


  • CLAIM: Maussan was saying that UFO video shot from a helicopter in New York City was real and had been analyzed.

    FACT: Video was a hoax produced by the Sci-Fi Channel.


  • CLAIM: Publicly stated it had been confirmed that the comet Hale-Bopp was bringing giant motherships to evacuate the planet.

    FACT: No mother ships, planet still here along with population. Hale-Bopp UFO hoax exposed as a fraud by Jeff Rense.


  • CLAIM: Maussan said he had radar tapes confimrming presence of UFOs in Mexico's airspace.

    FACT: To date, no such evidence has been brought forward.


  • CLAIM: Maussan claims that he investigated a case where an airliner collided with a UFO in Mexico. Also claimed that "tons" of evidence and documents supported the case.

    FACT: No evidence was ever produced.


  • CLAIM: Promoted alleged alien photo as being real and impossible to replicate.

    FACT: Photo was easily replicated. Maussan, in spite of being told it was fake prior to the story running at Rense.com, insisted the photo was genuine even after being told it was a fake.


  • CLAIM: Maussan said there were gigantic UFO motherships orbiting the planet disguised as stars.

    FACT: When asked for proof, Maussan exclaimed that was why the stars in the night sky moved - because they were UFOs!


See also




posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 08:53 PM
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Hmmm, its an interesting video to watch, but if you notice the guy who stood behind that lamp post was kind of chunky and i do believe someone skinny could stand behind it.

but meh, is this the first time something like this has happened on video? im sure there has been other videos about it...



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 09:33 PM
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yeah jamie mausan does jump to conclusions but he does one thing good and that is bring videos to the public so we can see them

i seen some very obese hungary people once and the wierd thing is hungary isnt known for its food, so they must be eating everthing else



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 09:44 PM
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Yeah, I've noticed many of Jaime's so called aliens look like paper cut outs.

If the cases he believes to be authentic are actually hoaxes, does that mean the ones he calls fakes may be real?



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 10:32 PM
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If it's anything, it's a grey tourist appearing from a personal cloaking device and having some fun with Earthlings.
Seriously, the head seems way too huge to be able to hide behind that pole without help. It looks bigger than the kid's head, at least 1.5 times bigger and it looks round enough. And considering Mexicans are typically short and greys are supposed to be short as well.
If I'm wrong, just as likely to be wrong as I am right, then it's just fun speculation about a kid freaking out on camera.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 10:38 PM
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Is it just me, or does that look like the Alien from the Mel Gibson flick "Signs"?

Wasup with Mexico for real though? Flying witches, Entire Flotillas of lights in the sky, Chupacabras, what gives? No wonder eveyone is running Norte.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 11:53 PM
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I suggest that you have a bad copy of the event and that some alterations have been made to the original and that if there had been a serious attempt to take the boy he would have beeen taken and his friends as well.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 12:21 AM
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AQliens have this peculiarity, by themselves they are small but when they flock together they get larger, stronger and faster..These guys have been around my house for a long time and i thought they might find someone on ATS willing to take them home with them for a while so they can learn about humanity up close and personal? How about that guy "wildcat" he don't believe in you so he probably won't even notice you.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 01:23 AM
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hey debris, can you tell me what im looking at here in this pic?

because i can't make out anything at all.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 01:59 AM
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Maybe he's a jewback from the future and has
come to take errrrr jobs!!
not !!!!
just kidding !!!
It looks fake to me !!
But who knows!!



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 02:08 AM
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I didn't bother to read through the thread since this vid has been posted before, but I think it was debunked. As in, the hoaxers came out and admitted it. On the other hand, that would be the perfect government cover wouldn't it. Hmmmm...



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 02:38 AM
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They are just friends hanging out. You don't need to record anything important when recording.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 11:05 PM
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I don't know what to believe about the video. I like Jaime Maussan though. I think he's very credible. With that being said keep this in mind though. There are more UFO sightings in Mexico than in the United States. I was watching this UFO conference online:

video.google.com...

and found it very interesting. The alien pictures presented, not including the one posted on here, are worth looking at.



posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 05:49 AM
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You wouldn't need CGI to create this effect. All you'd need is a large mirror and someone in costume.

For a nice example, watch A Nightmare On Elm Street. There's a scene where Freddy Krueger jumps out from behind a tree out of nowhere. The scene was done using a mirror. You can tell easily when Freddy jumps out and his glove is on his left hand instead of his right, then it appears on the right hand again in the next shot.

Mirrors are easy ways to create FX shots if you're on a very low budget.



posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 09:57 AM
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I don't doubt that effects can be pulled off using mirrors a lot cheaper than using any other low budget means, but in this case the mirror would have to angled diagonally to keep the kid from casting his reflection.

Considering the arm reach of this thing, it would require a super long mirror, raised about chest high and supported by some strong framing at both ends.
I doubt these kids would even consider spending time and effort on such a lengthy task to setup the shot.

If the event is a hoax and if the scene was staged by the kids, then they [either the kids and/or Jaime] should at least explain and reveal how it was done.



posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 10:21 AM
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heres a better version




HAHAHA

[edit on 4-2-2008 by gtirlad2]

www.youtube.com...

[edit on 4-2-2008 by gtirlad2]



posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 11:28 AM
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Thanks, I've been looking for that farsed version.

I remember finding this version first when my brother told me about the original. It's obvious that it was shot at the same exact location.

Maybe that's why Jaime is upset with the kids.

That is seriously funny but I hope the Mods don't penalize you.



posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
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Thanks, I've been looking for that farsed version.


You know that this video Alien from Merida is the most alien cloned
recreated video in YouTube with more than 60 satirical recreations made
by kids and jokers, this is the actual No. 1 alien cloned video in Youtube.
This reflects the hierarchy of this case. Also here on ATS how many
threads about this story under different names ? This establish the
hierarchy of this case.

And yet it's funny the level of ignorance of some people regarding the true
facts around this case. And it will continue in discussion over and over
under different names with the same arguments in a useless effort to
debunk the story and at the end the case will remain unexplained proving
it's hierarchy.



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