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Originally posted by aaaauroraaaaa
I don't hate you for saying it. I just think you are ignorant (not a jab, not calling you stupid, ignorant is not a word that should be taken as degrading imo
The above paragraph honestly just makes me sick...
You never did answer my last zietgiest posts from earlier in the thread.
Originally posted by AshleyD
Several Christians on this thread have already answered this accusation numerous times (so no evasion) but we are still being told we worship the cross. Hence, the "they're onto us!" statement. It's all been answered (so no evasion) and I will answer it once again in this comment (so no evasion). It would be like me saying this to you since you admitted to being an animist:
Me: You and all animists worship vegetables.
You: Um. No we don't.
Me: Yes you do! I know your beliefs better than you do.
You: No. Seriously. We don't. You're ignorant of the facts.
Me: I am not! You worship vegetables! Denial!
You: Yes, it's true. I set up a shrine every night and worship tomatoes.
2) The Romans crucified victims using a stake-like post: Not necessarily. The Romans crucified victims on a "t" shaped cross, an "x" shaped cross, possibly a stake, and sometimes the victim was marched right up to a tree and crucified at eye level.
3) The cross is a symbol used by the Illuminati for control: By most serious historical accounts, the Illuminati wasn't even created until the 18th century. The cross was used in Christian symbolism for centuries before that. Also, can anyone provide evidence that the Illuminati still exists? Furthermore, the cross does not automatically turn someone into a zombie. It has no hypnotic power. We are not controlled by it.
4) The cross is pagan: Does anyone not realize how many times "t's," "x's," triangles, stars, circles, and who knows what other symbols are used for different things repeatedly? Is the American flag Satanic because it has a five pointed star? Let's not even bother with the fact the Satanic star differs in form and meaning. It must all be the same because it's a five pointed star.
Pretty much all nonsense allegations that have been answered. Hence, the "we might as well come clean" joke. No one is going to provide reasonable evidence or the smoking gun so why take it seriously?
Originally posted by skyshow
Thanks for posting yet again...I might be the one so delighted to inform you in the interest of avoiding further circular arguments, that the conversation has moved forward...light years forward!!!!
You know what, you are not very smart, I was trying to show you where Judaism comes from Isis, Ra, and El are old religious cults that merged to form IsisRaEl, or what we know today as Israel. Its unbeliveable how you twist things around. It has always been said that in the "End Times" the words of the Holy books will be twisted around to serve evil, that millons will follow a path of darkness and those that speak the truth will be ridiculed and put to death. When do you think the twisting of the words are going to take place??? Don't you get it its already been done, you are so proud of that device used to put one of the greatest teachers the world has ever seen to death, FAKE Christians. Is that not evil giving praise to a device that was used to kill people. I think that cross is the mark of the beast. If there is a time to come when millons will be following the wrong path and few will follow the light, what path do you think your on right now, the Roman Empire made Jesus the new pagan sacrifice and you fools are runing around worshiping it with out question. You worship a pagan God, a Human Sacrifice and are oblivious to the facts.
Originally posted by skyshow
further more this thread is about the cross and how it is interpreted as a Satanic symbol used by the Illuminati (I even provided you with a dictionary definition of that specific term) to control you.
Originally posted by skyshow
reply to post by AshleyD
Maybe I'm in the wrong for thinking you have about an average IQ, when it appears to be a lot lower, is this the case, if so I'm in the bad to assume you have average understanding and should have explained things in more detail just for you?
[edit on 6-2-2008 by skyshow]
Originally posted by Thurisaz
I think it is interesting that Christ was crucified on the cross and henceforth all grabbed it and associated it with him = Christianity.
Did Christ ever say, take this cross and use it to remind you of me?
No, but he did say, take this bread and my blood...so with respect to using the cross to ward of vampires? Hmm...seems contradictive.
Anyway, interesting read.
In ancient times, people would have thought about pain, suffering, and death.
The Cross was a sign of the worst torture one could suffer.
It was a cursed sign.
And yet, when Jesus willingly accepted the Cross, when he willingly accepted to die a criminal’s death, when he willingly accepted to be ridiculed, hated, and killed, he changed the Cross from a symbol of death and despair into a symbol of life and hope.
The Sign of the Cross~LINK
''By His death Christ ransomed man out of servitude to sin,
and redeemed man from the eternal consequences of sin which had been incurred at the Fall.
Christ Himself spoke of this.
He said of Himself: The Son of Man came to give His life as a ransom for many (Matt. 20:28).
In the Epistle to the Hebrews we read: Christ is the mediator of the new testament,
that by means of death,
for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament,
they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance (Heb. 9:15).
And in the book of Apocalypse: Thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by Thy Blood (Apoc. 5:9).