The Smoking (Anti-Aircraft) Guns (of Los Angeles, 1942), page 27
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reply posted on 8-7-2011 @ 12:11 PM by Cosmic4life
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Well it's been a year since your last post Witness.....

Are you dead ???

Cosmic...


reply posted on 8-7-2011 @ 12:15 PM by mcrom901
Originally posted by Phage
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Only battery B of the 65th had an SCR 268 radar for gun laying.


the rest for searchlights?


reply posted on 9-7-2011 @ 04:28 AM by MrInquisitive
Originally posted by HazyChestNutz
Originally posted by MrInquisitive
Analysis of original Battle of LA photo negative

Seems the classic photo everyone is familiar with is not the original. Below is a link to an article about recent analysis of the original negative. The conclusions is that there is no aircraft of any sort, but rather a cloud or smoke at the nexus of the searchlight beams.


They noticed a moving cloud and started to shoot at it? And there were spotlights on the UFO. How is that logical to say that they were shooting at a cloud? They even said that the object moved off to the shores and disappeared out of nowhere.


"They" -- in this case an experience Navy observer with good binoculars -- also said that he saw nine silver planes. Why aren't you going with his observation, which clearly nullifies the ET UFO hypothesis? As far as witnesses back then go, I don't know if any of them used the term "UFO", and if they did, they meant it in the most formal sense, i.e. an Unidentified Flying Object. The notion that this was an ET UFO only came about years later.

A clouds do move. I've lived in the LA area and witnessed moving clouds. The fog can roll in too, just like in the movies.

The point about the cloud, which I was making, has to do with the picture. The searchlights are all aimed at a purported glowing nexus, which some contend is a ET UFO. This could be the underside of a cloud or the smoke from all the AA bursts. In the recent reanalysis of an original untouched negative (see my prior thread), there wasn't even much if any at all of this glowing patch in the sky at the nexus of the searchlight beams, which dispenses with the need of even a cloud to explain what was in the picture.

There is also the hypothesis that what was seen was one of these weather balloons sent up to determine the wind direction for the gunners.

As to what was seen moving out to sea again, who knows? Balloon, cloud, Japanese sub plane or -- if you prefer -- an ET craft. From all the different accounts of the "object", however, it is hard to take any observer at his/her word. Heck, it could have been a cloud of thick AA smoke drifting offshore.


reply posted on 9-7-2011 @ 06:49 AM by MrInquisitive
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Hmm, balloons floating "up the coast" is certainly not down towards Long Beach. I have to acknowledge that to Firemoon. But given the disparate descriptions of what was seen, I could still imagine clouds or smoke from the AA drifting offshore and being thought to be the object. It also could have been the path of the final AA firing, which lead some to think that the "object" went offshore.

Also from the report that Arbitrageur cites, on page 24 of this thread, some of the military witnesses may have been forced to say they saw a flight of planes, which muddies things further, if we can't take all eye witness accounts at face value.
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