Originally posted by ALLis0NE

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
...or we could just not have been created by anything...
because there isn't really any evidence that something created us...
or that something capable of creating everything actually exists

WOW, I will never understand how one could be so blind. You basicly said that YOU don't exist. You just said that there is no proof that YOU exist.

How can you sit there, seeing, feeling, hearing, smelling, and knowing, and then contiune to say there is no proof. YOU ARE PROOF.
[edit on 17-1-2008 by ALLis0NE]

[edit on 17-1-2008 by ALLis0NE]

I have to say that madnessinmysoul is as right as you are ALLis0NE.
Seeing, feeling, hearing, smelling, and knowing is not a proof of our existence is just a proof that our organ work in this manner. Hypothetically if someone born with none of the 5 senses then how this being will know that he exist, don’t you agree that earring, smelling, tasting, touching and seeing are the apparatus which we base our notion of our place in any environment, therefore if none of them exist which “device” in our body can make up for the senses?

kacou

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
The path to the creator, is the action of becoming 0NE, again. As of now, humanity is seperated. We must all strive to become "one with God".

You are suggesting like many mystical religions that our aim is to merge with the initial creative order in another word to be one with “god”.
This sound incompatible with the same notion from all the mystical religions which preach that each unit of awareness (us) as emerged from the primary source (god or what ever) with a unique quality of individuality and independent perspective of the universe as a result merging with the source will be contrary of the prime purpose of the creation but achieving spiritual awareness and fulfilling our own individual perception of the universe will must probably bring us to our real identity.

Kacou.

Originally posted by marg6043
Son of God I got it, a way for the human beings to link themselves to a higher being to make themselves unique and difference from any other animal species in earth.

Not exactly, the part in bold is only the belief of the selfish. Once you see that every life form on Earth is a child of God, all other species become our brothers and sisters. We are all brothers and sisters.

Originally posted by marg6043
They have to humanized The creator to fit the human mentality.

This part is true. They humanized their relationship to God, in a Father-Son, type of explaination. Mainly because humans are created via male and female interaction, making their true physical creator their parents.

If you want to know your phyiscal creator, it is your parents. But your parents have been created by the Sun and Earth, and the Sun and Earth were created by a force, maybe even a "big bang". That force is the all powerful true GOD, the true creator.



[edit on 27-1-2008 by ALLis0NE]

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Here we go again... another thread about how such-and-such is absolute proof of the existence of God, or about how something else is absolute proof that God is not real...

All of these "Aha!! Got you!!" threads tire me out.

What the OP has stated is that everything that exists is made out of some combination of elements that can be found somewhere on the periodic table. That is true. The claim that this is proof of God, or proof of one God (to be more specific) doesn't seem to have any logical connection to the fact that we all have an elemental basis.

Furthermore, as someone said earlier, I don't think that what separates people is the idea that we are created by different Gods. It's the zealousness with which people defend their own idea of what God is... that is what separates us.

I believe in God, and I believe that He did create every single thing in the universe. I have a lot of respect for God, and I know that my personal beliefs about God might not be the same as another person's beliefs.

I have no proof to back up what I believe, and (most importantly) I don't need any. Your perception of God is your own reality... what does it matter to you if other people think you're wrong? That's the beauty of individualism and free thought. You can believe whatever you want to, regardless of how different it is from someone else's beliefs.

I appreciate your respect for the Creator, but I disagree with your logic. While I agree that this universe and everything in it is completely amazing, and God does beautiful work, I don't see anything that is 100% hard proof of the fact that it is the work of God. But as I said earlier, I don't need any.

To me, my beliefs are as good as scientific fact, because in my heart I know them to be true. But that faith doesn't make them true. Follow your heart and live your life...

What really separates mankind is a lack of respect for others. If someone believes in God, fine. If someone else doesn't, fine. Respect each others' beliefs. After all, we won't truly know who's right until we die anyway, so there is no point in arguing about it here. Everyone can believe different things if they want to, but everyone needs to be respectful.

[edit on 27-1-2008 by TheHypnoToad]

Originally posted by TheHypnoToad
What the OP has stated is that everything that exists is made out of some combination of elements that can be found somewhere on the periodic table. That is true. The claim that this is proof of God, or proof of one God (to be more specific) doesn't seem to have any logical connection to the fact that we all have an elemental basis.

No wonder you don't like these threads, you simply don't read them, nor understand them.

I never once said everything that exists is made out of elements from the periodic table. Actually I strickly made it clear to THINK SMALLER. What are the elements made of? Sub-Atomic particles? What are sub-atomic particles made of? A force? YES. This is the universal force. GOD, scientificaly proven to be the force that created all things.