Yes, a beautiful dream! What you say is correct - however, this basic tenant isn't what divides people.

The division that causes the strife and sometimes wars is the path to that creator. Every religion asserts that they know the 'secrets', the 'real truth' and 'the only way'. Each group is so convinced in it's correctness that they are unwilling to consider any beliefs that are outside of their particular faith.

It's no the fact that we all come from a common place, or were created by the same entity or force that causes derision and never has been. It's the way to achieve reunion that tears us apart.

The path to the creator, is the action of becoming 0NE, again. As of now, humanity is seperated. We must all strive to become "one with God".

That is why there is Good and Bad. Good, is the action of attraction to God. Bad, is the action of repulsion from God. We must attract to God, by doing Good things, or making the world full of Good.

It's that simple.

I found this quote on ATS under one of the users, i thought it to be fitting.

What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence.

What you speak of my friend is simple truth, but the many filters people have on cause them to maybe be weary of understanding, unless presented in a way custom for that person to reach the understanding you are speaking of. A particle, a sound, wave, light. The essence of pure life. The beginning. Together the universe and everything in it One. Perfection. And without one bit would not be complete, therefore not true.

The kingdom we seek starts within,
peace and love

...or we could just not have been created by anything...
because there isn't really any evidence that something created us...
or that something capable of creating everything actually exists

One more Moses...

... Except that the worthy follower of Abraham understood early that "vanity of vanities, all is vanities"...

Keep on, boy... But don't wait much from ATSers...

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
...or we could just not have been created by anything...
because there isn't really any evidence that something created us...
or that something capable of creating everything actually exists

WOW, I will never understand how one could be so blind. You basicly said that YOU don't exist. You just said that there is no proof that YOU exist.

How can you sit there, seeing, feeling, hearing, smelling, and knowing, and then contiune to say there is no proof. YOU ARE PROOF.

I am proof, You are proof, Earth is proof, All things that exist is proof that something created us. Wether it be a God, an accident, or nothing... no matter what, something created us.

Even if you are atheist, and you believe "nothing created us", well guess what? "NOTHING" is something. Then to you, your God is NOTHING. So you DO have a God, yet you named your God "nothing".
If you believe we are all an accident, well then "accident" is your G0D and that is what created you. No matter what you say, G0D will exist.

The pure FACT of life, is that there is a physical/non-physical force called "electromagnetic force". This force is what holds all atoms together in this phyiscal reality. THIS IS PROOF, PHYSCIAL SCIENTIFIC PROOF, THAT ELECTROMAGNETIC FORCE IS WHAT CREATED ALL THINGS.

What is this force? I hate to break it to you, but it is G0D.




[edit on 17-1-2008 by ALLis0NE]

[edit on 17-1-2008 by ALLis0NE]

The Three Dimensional Reality, that can be perceived using the sensory channels of the temporal human organism, IS so that the soul can evolve. God's Creation is so remarkable, Immortal Beings evolved in it.

The temporal human organism is an evolutionary relic, like wisdom teeth, in the development of the eternal soul. The soul is the highest form of life to evolve, and it is you, and me. Thoughts, feelings, emotions, memories, reason, perception, ability to make complex future plans; All are faculties of the soul.

The stimuli for the chemical reactions in the brain to take place are from the soul. The brain is an interface device between the soul and the body, allowing the temporal organism to communicate with the soul.

The problem is, when people sin, and don't confess their sins in confession, the soul sends fear into the heart, because if the body dies, the soul will burn forever. This causes fear of death. Combine this with secular humanism, and the brain tries to project this fear outside one's self, onto things that can be controlled.

The temporal organism, imagining itself to be what is in control, will always try to frame communication from the eternal realm in terms of experiences in the temporal world.

Dreams are experiences of the soul, who wakes up as the body goes to sleep. The soul goes traveling, always knowing they have a home in the three dimensional reality, so if they get into trouble, they can just force a person to wake up, by going to sleep.

When the body wakes up, the soul is going to sleep. Without the soul having contact with other Eternal Beings, the temporal human organism becomes paranoid and fearful, mentally unbalanced, and a wreck.

What people remember from dreams, and nightmares, are experiences of the soul, framed in the experiential context of the body.

The soul has been part of man for thousands of years, but man is devolving. The soul is the love the mind has for the heart. For this love to be, the mind must know Truth, and the heart must be free of corruption. For a mind to know Truth, they must know God The Father, Who is The Source of All Truth.

For a heart to be free of corrruption, they must know God The Son, Jesus Christ, and receive Forgiveness from sin.

Such a mind as knows Truth from God The Father will love such a heart as knows Forgiveness from God The Son; And it is this love of the mind that knows Truth for the heart that knows purity that IS the soul. In this way man can become like God, Immortal.

Satan has been trying to derail human beings becoming Immortal, because of His utter contempt for God. Secular humanism is a tool Satan uses to reverse the direction of man's evolution, toward becoming an instinctual animal, that cares about its stomach, loins, and preserving its own life.

This way, the strong will destroy the weak by brute force and violence. They will mate with the most beautiful women, by force, and then abandon each girl, in turn for another virgin. This is what happens when people are trained, over generations, to view the temporal human organism as the whole person.

The last time Satan succeeded in instituting Secular Humanism was in Sodom and Gomorrah. Roving gangs of serial criminal sodomites roamed the streets, raping husbands and fathers to death, in front of their wives and children.

God's Angel of wrath rained down burning hail, and burned alive every sodomite in those two cities. If you go toward the southern shore of The Dead Sea, where these two cities were once located, you can find thousands of sulfur balls, burned hard on the outside, but powdery sulfur inside.

These are the hailstones God's Angel rained down on the sodomites. If we don't get rid of sodomites, burning hail is going to destroy The United States, UK, and Western Europe.

Copyright 2008 by SwanSword, et al.
All Rights reserved.

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
It is The Will Of G0D. G0D created attraction and repulsion. He created the law "likes repel, opposites attract", and nothing in the enitre universe can change that law, because that would be like trying to change G0D's mind.

ok...how about this:
instead of just saying all of this stuff, you show us some evidence that supports it

you know, proving it

it's called science, it can be applied to anything that's real

Originally posted by 1Angrylightbulb
I don't see how "God" is responsible for that material being here.

That material IS GOD.

[edit on 23-1-2008 by ALLis0NE]

You guys are really tripping me out. STOP IT!

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
ok... you still haven't proved that it's god

Ok, you want me to prove it? Fine. Do one thing, and I'll prove it.

Tell me, what is YOUR definition of GOD?

We made be made of the same things from the same source; but how do you know that it is YOUR conception of God that is the right one?

May the Force be with us all.

(Mo one line responses. The following is added. No one line responses, they are too short, much too short even though I believe one succinct and properly placed word can speak volumes. No longer a one line response.)