I Am Not An Anarchist, Nor A Traitor To My Country..., page 1
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Topic started on 14-1-2008 @ 08:03 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
You know, I haven't been on here in quite a while so I thought I'd post something interesting. In the not too distant past, like maybe six months into last year, I was having a discussion with a man I work with, and he expressed the opinion to Me, that one of the reasons he liked Me, was that I was an anarchist like him. Now, I have to admit, I was totally floored by his comment.

The reason for this comment from him really never struck Me until after he quit. I talk about conspiracies all the time, that would be why I am a conspiracy theorist, this also would be why he made the comment too. This of course would be because this great American country of ours was founded on a conspiracy, by a certain set of gentleman within closed doors, who we affectionately call..."The Founding Fathers" of our Nation with the Declaration of Independance, and anyone who has researched their History knows that the "Founding Fathers" being a majority of Mason's had meetings before they ever crossed over to America.

You know, I have made some pretty sound statements on here, along with some very bold comments. The same comments I repeat daily to people I generally think understand and also generally agree also with Me, or have expressed the same opinions over and over. Yes, I disagree with the current Administration's handling of the Iraq War, and or the upcoming "War In Iran", and if anyone here has read anything I have typed out on this computer through My tenure here has seen that I express Myself, sometimes somewhat boldly too, but I am not an anarchist in any way, shape, or form.

The comments I have made here in print, over the phone where I have known My whole life that "they were listening" to everything I say, and in person have all been general comments, factional comments, thoroughly investigated detailed comments, but in the very end of all of it, they were all left completely 100% open-ended. Meaning here, that I have never once made a complete statement of all of My beliefs, thoughts, and or desires for Myself, let alone this country of Mine.

Do I question authority? Yes. Anyone who doesn't, is a mindless moron, like the "gentleman" that made the comment to Me that I was an anarchist. You see I know the definition of anarchy. I will spare you the full definition, but the short and sweet version is that "anarchy is to overthrow the controlling power and have a total lack of control, and keep it that way." I do not believe in anarchy, as anarchy means that means violence, mass murder, and total war will be ongoing at all times, something I strongly believe against.

When I question George W Bush, or Dick Cheney, or the C.I.A., or the United Nations about their policy, procedure, and protocols about things, it is because I am a man that thinks. I think to question, because without a community that questions its leadership, you become helpless serfs that are merely farming the land for their masters. That's also called "Freedom of Speech", which while we are expressly protected by the United States Constituion. The problem though is that our U.S. Constitution has been bypassed by the "War on Terror" and the new "Terror Laws" that are left open-ended and vague, so they can be interpreted however the ruling heirachy decides, when, where, and how it pleases.

A really good book that I've recently read that you really should consider purchasing, would be "Robert O'Harrow's : No Place To Hide." Robert O'Harrow is a reporter for the Washington Post If you are interested in taking a look at the book and reading the reviews about it yourself, here's a link for you on Amazon.

Robert O'Harrow's : No Place To Hide

People, it's time to wake up. No, this is not a call to arms. The revolution will not be televised, as a matter of fact it's already begun, and you're not seeing it for whatever reason that may be.



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reply posted on 20-1-2008 @ 11:38 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
Remember what I typed in the last post? Well, I have been exploring the majority of the topics I have posted and a large percentage of the stuff other people post here on ATS My entire life. In the last five years alone, I have read countless books on these subjects, which were written by credible authors, with extensive knowledge theirselves, let alone what I have figured out through investigative research.

Here's a some examples :

James Bamford : Former Washignton Investigative Producer for World News Tonight : Body of Secrets : Anatomy of the Ultra Secret National Security Agency

That book alone spells out the N.S.A.'s role in electronic surveillance, and it is a very good book to read. I loved it. The American people deserve to know where their tax money is being spent at all times, for all reasons, and how to find that information.

Robert Ellis Smith : Our Vanishing Privacy : A Book About Privacy

This book is older yet it still spells out the privacy that we are slowly losing on a daily basis.

Confr onting The Enemy Within : Security Intelligence, the Police, and Counterterrorism In Four Democracies

This book talk about the role of four democracies other than the United States of America and their roles in counterterrorism. This would be the United Kingdom, France, Canada, and Australia.

Ni cholas Eftimiades : Chinese Intelligence Operations

This book spells out how Chinese Intelligence Operations are enacted through college students who are recruited by the People's Republic of China to observe and report on American activity. It is very informative, and will make you think twice about talking to a Chinese student. No, that is not a racist remark in the least. I am saying that spies are everywhere, and this book spells out that fact very clearly.

These four books are very informative to let you know fact from fiction, but of course they are not alone in what you might consider reading to overcome your curiosity. I've delved into countless other books to quench My thirst for knowledge, and I will add others to the list here as I see fit, and when time allows.









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reply posted on 20-1-2008 @ 12:13 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
Here are some new books which I haven't read, yet. I will post as many book titles on ATS as I feel relevant and that will show information to anyone who desires it and wants to explore on their own.

Stephen Grey : Amnesty International Ward Winner : Ghost Plane : The True Story of the CIA Rendition and Toture Program

This book is supposed to spell out how the entire Rendition program works and what to expect, if you are ever "detained" overseas by the C.I.A.

Jeremy Schahill : Blackwater : The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army

This one is supposed to be good and spell out how Blackwater was formed. I will thoroughly enjoy this book when I get to it.

Joseph McMoneagle : Memoirs of a Psychic Spy : The Remarkable Life of U,S. Government Remote Viewer 001

I am currently reading another book of James McMoneagle's right now about the actual walkthrough of how to practice Remote Viewing

Lyn Buchanan : The Seventh Sense : The Secrets of Remote Viewing As Told By A "Psychic Spy" For The U.S. Military

This book looks eye-opening and is sure to be informational.



reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 07:59 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
Thanks for the comment. I will have to look it up and explore the meaning in several areas to find My own definition, or the best version I can from multiple sources, like I do everywhere else. I am trying to keep this thread going, so look for more post's in the future.

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Here's some more books that I am either reading or have read.

Rus sell Targ : Limitless Mind : A Guide To Remote Viewing and Transformation of Consciousness

Russell Targ is a Physicist and co-author of several books, including Miracle of Mind and The Heart of the Mind.

John Stockwell : The Praetorian Guard : The U.S.Role in the New World Order

I haven't read this one yet, and since I have figured out that the "New World Order" never really existed, but was a game of "Chinese Whispers" to be let loose on the American population in order to get everyone whispering what they would do to overthrow the NWO, and then "they" could listen to you and Me and figure out how to tighten the leash even tighter around our collective necks, I'm not certain what I will think of the book, but I sure I will still enjoy it for the facts I can delve into in it.

The quote on "Chinese Whispers" is from Wikipedia, in case anyone wants to know before clicking through the link.

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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 04:01 PM by Miishgoos
reply to post by freelance_zenarchist



My Personal Opinion

That is not a misconception of anarchy at all, in my opinion it is you that has the misconception my friend.

If you advocate any control by anybody or anything or you belong to a group that organizes itself for any cause whatsoever then you are not an anarchist.

Of course if you practiced real anarchy you would have to break the rules a bit and form an army to protect the country and to make sure nobody tried to get control like warlords or politicians or tribal elders etc.

Now I enjoy working toilets and streets and electrical power so I do not advocate Anarchy by any means and rather enjoy the way things are now.

But lets let get socialism mixed up with anarchy now.

and thats my personal opinion



reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 07:30 PM by ANOK
Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
You see I know the definition of anarchy. I will spare you the full definition, but the short and sweet version is that "anarchy is to overthrow the controlling power and have a total lack of control, and keep it that way." I do not believe in anarchy, as anarchy means that means violence, mass murder, and total war will be ongoing at all times, something I strongly believe against.


Well mate hate to burst ya bubble but you are a little miss-informed. You should really do some reading.

The link in my sig 'What would a Libertarian Socialist (anarchism) Society look like' would be a good start.

I am also against violence of any kind and I am anti-war, that is why I see government as an unnecessary evil. When was the last time your neighbours invaded another country? Governments create war and violence daily in order to control you. Governments create war and violence not people... But it's the people who suffer, on both sides. No one wins, the violence just continues perpetuated by the very system you support.

You are confusing the word Anarchy with Chaos. You have been conditioned by the establishment to believe that without their power and control we would all turn violent and kill each other. That's a load of crap and history proves this.

flag.blackened.net...

Do some reading and you'll see, as apposed to what the establishment wants you to believe, Anarchism is not a system without law or order. It is a system where you govern your own and your neighbourhoods lives without overbearing authority from an establishment that is so far removed from your life that it has no idea or care about what your needs are.
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