Originally posted by palehorse23
Okay, if that is the case, then who is determining that said person needs to be "looked at further".
I guess I just don't get it. Why do they need to be looked at further just because they exhibit these traits.
Again, these traits do not imply mental illness.
But they are present in mental illness.
I'm not saying all ATSers are mentally ill. We are just slightly more leaned towards considering ideas, which would sometimes be deemed insane by
others.
But you, or someone else saying they believe something, is not the type of belief i meant. I will try to explain this better below.
Originally posted by palehorse23
If I were to sit down on their couch right now and dump on them all that I believe is going on in the conspiracy world, chances are they would say I
need further help. When, in fact, I have no underlying issue where I need to feel special as you say. To me, everything I believe is backed by
logical thought and evaluation, not a desire to belong.
You base your "beliefs" on probabilities. You might be slightly more sensitive to certain ways of thinking, but you're not exhibiting traits of
mental illness.
If you did, i would notice it by now.
Also, the difference between your "beliefs" and the beliefs of a delusional person is, that you just consider certain things as the most probable,
while a delusional person "KNOWS" what he believes is true and it is impossible for them to even consider a different explanation.
They don't base their beliefs on logic and rational thought, but on random manic thoughts which make them feel special and important, often because
they really have an almost inexistant level of confidence.
This is almost always the result of some huge emotional trauma in their childhood. Like physically or mentaly abusive parents and sometimes sexual
abuse.
It's not those traits mentioned in the OP, that get them "further looked into", but instead their inability to cope with reality and the need for
an imaginary one.
Usually they are admitted by concerned members of their family and in rare cases the police, if they're caught exhibiting a very bad psychotic break
in public.
During evaluation, the psychiatrist is going to talk to them in order to establish which traits they exhibit, in order to better understand what's
going on.
I can try to list many of the traits that really constitute mental illness, if you want.
But anyway, what the content of the OP was supposed to mean, is that people with those more general traits are slightly more likely to suffer from
mental illness.
It does not mean that everyone with some or even all of them has mental illness. Just that the likelyhood is higher.
It's statistics and nothing more.
And saying that these traits CAUSE mental illness is backwards use of statistics.
It only means that the group of people exhibiting these traits is going to contain x% of people who either have mental illness or are going to
develope it in the future.
[edit on 11-1-2008 by deezee]