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Originally posted by slackerwire
My positions:
-Secure the borders by whatever means necessary. This includes militarizing the southern border to deal with the continued threats from mexico.
-End all foreign aid. Unconstitutional, and a waste of our taxpayers money.
-End welfare. If you want help, you WILL work. No one can be on welfare for a period longer than 6 months.
-End Iraq conflict. complete withdrawl with the exception of a small security contingent so that we may take however much oil we need.
-Abolish the IRS and put in place a consumption tax.
-An immediate reduction in spending of 15-20% in all federal programs.
- Elimination of all federal departments that arent authorized by the Constitution.
- I will also push for federal legislation criminalizing the act of proposing or voting for any law which violates the Constitution.
- Federal recognition of the right of someone to marry any consenting adult regardless of sex.
- Elimination of all tax exempt status of any faith based organization that gives support to any political candidate or issue.
- Legalization/decriminalitzation of all currently prohibited substances. The federal government has no power to dictate what one may or may not put into their own body.
- An immediate 50% reduction in visas issued. We have enough people here, lets slow down all immigration.
- Once and for all I would repeal the section of the 14th Amendment that is currently being exploited by illegal aliens.
I would remove government from healthcare and let the free market make the decisions.
I am:
Pro gun
Anti tax
Pro Small government
Anti republican
anti democrat
Pro freedom
Can I count on the ATS voting bloc?
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
continued threats? i'm sorry, but they aren't really threats, they're mostly migrant workers.
how is it unconstitutional? you actually have to back up a statement like that.
it's not always that simple. what if you're mentally ill and unable to work because of it?
alright, so withdraw from a country and then steal its resources, great job breaking international law and offending common decency.
consumption taxes unfairly harm the poor. poorer people who only consume necessities are left with nothing to save up.
alright, let's start with the military.
the constitution leaves room for growth...
clearly somebody hasn't ready it through.
you're going to criminalize the amendment process?
and by whose interpretation of the constitution?
...crack? you're going to legalize crack? that's insane
i'll disagree with this one too. we need immigration. this country has always thrived on it.
you can't repeal an amendment without an amendment and a president has no part in that process. you'd also have to propose a law that is explicitly unconstitutional to do so.
look at world statistics. the countries with the best healthcare systems have socialized systems. the free market isn't the best thing here.
to what extent? will i be allowed to own a howitzer?
i'll disagree with this too. taxes are necessary.
small government doesn't work, see how america faired under the articles of confederation
yet, apparently not the freedom to disagree with you
not this vote.
Originally posted by Ben Miller
Well you have my vote.
A little iffy on the drug legalization since it didn't seem to have worked out to well in other places it has been tried but I can overlook that considering I agree with everything else you stand for.
And may I suggest one more?:
We are asked to take a drug screen to apply for employment, we should have to take a drug screen when applying for welfare and other government subsistance.
Originally posted by slackerwire
When you stop getting your news from sources like Indymedia, feel free to cmon back and have an actual intelligent debate.
Actually pretty simply. Ever read the Constitution? You wont find anything authorizing sending our money to prop up foreign nations.
Life isnt fair, and it certainly isnt the governments job or duty to make it that way.
Exactly which resources have been stolen? If you are referring to oil, you had better have the precise number of barrels you claim were stolen, along with which refineries said oil was shipped to.
Thereby providing the necessary motivation to get themselves out poverty/near poverty.
Actually lets get rid of each and every unconstitutional social program ever put in place by an abusive government who seeks to install socialism as a way of life here.
I have forgotten more about the Constitution than you could ever hope to know.
If you wish to engage in a Constitutional debate, I would be more than happy to humiliate you.
Uh no. Ever heard hate crime laws? Just one small example of Unconstitutional legislation.
Why rely on interpretations which are subject to bias when we can simply rely on the words of and writings of those who actually penned the document?
Point out which part of the Constitution gives government the power to dictate what one may or may not put into their own bodies?
Would you feel the same way if the feds decided to outlaw your favorite sex toy for those lonely nights?
100% Wrong. You obviously know nothing of the current state of affairs or the threat posed by overpopulation. We certainly do not NEED immigration.
Proposing an amendment is not Unconstitutional. Try taking civics 101.
Ever happen to notice those countries also have confiscatory tax rates? How about Canada, want to debate their socialized health care plan?
Certainly, if you could afford it. There is no Constitutional measure outlawing it.
Only those authorized by the Constitution, and income aint one of em.
big government doesnt work. See the former Soviet Union, present day China, North Korea, Myanmar, need I go on?
You can disagree with me until your head pops off for all I care.
You have the right to your opinion, just the same as I have the right to believe you to be a quasi-socialist retard.
Thats ok, people like you might scare off freedom loving people.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
alright, this is the second time you've assumed that i get my information from sources like that...
but there isn't anything specifically prohibiting it. under the elastic clause, foreign aid is constitutional. (the elastic clause can be found in article 1 of the constitution)
ah the old "life isn't fair" line..
well, what if you're mentally ill because you fought in a war?
oh, and i actually think it is a government's job to even things out and provide equal access to opportunity.
...alright, clearly you didn't read the part in your post where you said we'd take their oil
that's called theft
it's also an offense under international law
by keeping them in poverty?
the impoverished don't need motivation, they need opportunity and to hold onto as much of their income as possible so they can save it up.
a consumption tax prevents the impoverished from accumulating savings.
name an unconstitutional program in place. then show me how it's unconstitutional. i'd like you to cite the constitution here.
you've clearly forgotten about the elastic clause.
show me how it's unconstitutional.
i'm sorry if i sound like a broken record, but i'm from missouri, the show me state.
welllllllllllll
considering that the document itself isn't inerrant and is actually quite vague in some parts, you can't really rely on the words on the document
oh, and socialism could be allowed under the constitution:
promoting the general welfare + the elastic clause.
well, outlawing substances that are clearly harmful (like crack) is promoting the general welfare. that's right there in the constitution. outlawing a substance that destroys people's lives is promoting the general welfare
i don't use sex toys...
but that's something a bit different. a sex toy isn't a harmful substance with horrible addictive properties.
america isn't a very densely populated nation.
we've always needed immigration. immigration creates an influx of new ideas that this nation has thrived upon.
you're being very rude, and i don't appreciate it.
i'd prefer the stellar example of france
or malta... malta would be easier for me, i'm here right now and know quite a bit about the system.
hooray, we're going to live in a world of private armies controlled by mutlibillionaires!
neo-feudalism, here we come!
excuse me, but it is.
16th amendment.
apparently that's one of those things you've forgotten about the constitution
yet you'd make it illegal to propose a law that is unconstitutional according to your views...
i'm sorry, but i love freedom. i also love common decency, intellectualism, knowledge of the constitution and modesty.
Originally posted by SimonSays
well I ain't gonna get into a pissin contest like this but I will say
you lost my vote with the homosexuality line. Any consenting
adult don't cut it for me.
Originally posted by slackerwire
So you think the government should regulate what adults do with other adults?
Your idea doesnt pass Constitutional muster.
Originally posted by slackerwire
You claimed they were just "migrant workers",
how about we call them what they really are: migrant criminals. They violate numerous sections of the USC simply by crossing illegally. When they work, they violate even more. Ever heard of MS13? They just came here to work too right?
Ah see, your little elastic clause there also goes by another name: The necessary and proper clause. Foreign aid is neither necessary or proper. You may want to try reading the decision handed down in McCulloch v. Maryland
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison.
To ill veterans, yes. That does not mean supporting them for the rest of their lives.
You think its the duty of the government to make things fair? Using that logic, you support spending each and every cent of the federal budget to cure oh lets say mental retardation just to make things fair right? Do you support the federal government buying prosthetic body parts for each and every amputee?
No, actually thats called collection of payment for services rendered.
Clearly you know nothing about the idea of a consumption tax. Each and every consumption tax idea thrown around today has a general exemption for the first (insert certain amount here).
Besides, its time poor people actually started paying for services in which they chiefly benefit from.
Affirmative action. -14th amendment.
Any of the various "New Deal" Programs. You are aware of how those were passed arent you? You may want to research that a bit.
"I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the General Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit." - President Grover Cleveland, 1887
I have forgotten how many people like you twist that clause, along with the general welfare clause to fit into their own little ideologies. Unfortunately for you, and people like you, the Constitution proves you wrong on both fronts.
Again, refer to the 14th Amendment.
"or deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws".
Now, how do I (straight white male) receive equal protection when someone may get a longer prison sentence for killing a gay black woman than they would if they had simply killed me?
You really mean you rely on interpretations you agree with when the actual document destroys your argument. gotcha.
Ahahahahahahahaha. Cite a single case to back up that ridiculous notion.
General does not equal individual, you do know that right? hahahahahaha.
Seriously kid, using 2 clauses out of the entire document to base all of your arguments on makes you a fool.
Yet again you sound like a broken record kid. Hint: The general welfare clause DOES NOT give the federal government carte blanche to do whatever they want to. It doesnt even pertain to individuals. It pertains to the nation.
Yet very much like crack, sex toys are also against the law in certain bible belt jurisdictions. You dont support that do you?
Who said anything about dense population? Your opinion that we NEED immigration, is just that opinion. We dont. I can back that up. Can you?
Awww, guess it's time for you to man up for once huh?
Ever thought of just staying there? Please do.
Well you completely avoided the Constitutional aspect of it. Do you even know the purpose behind the 2nd Amendment?
It seems youve forgotten the words of the 16th, so after you are done re-reading it, why dont you give the LEGAL (not thecommon) definition of the word income?
Originally posted by SimonSays
So you think the government should regulate what adults do with other adults?
Your idea doesnt pass Constitutional muster.
The ONLY intent behind the 2nd Amendment was to ensure that the people (thats us) have the means to overthrow the government should it ever become tyrannical. It has nothing to do with "setting up militias".
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Originally posted by slackerwire
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
someone hasn't read the constitution lately...
granted, the original intent isn't the current national guard system...
with that, i'm out