Dysgenics: Dumbing down of society., page 2
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reply posted on 23-12-2007 @ 05:16 AM by gottago
reply to post by Beachcoma



sorry beachcoma I can't provide a link, I stored that one away in real memory from an article I'd read at least a year ago and didn't bookmark it. In any event, I do recall that Ronald Reagan was used to illustrate the point: his letters--indeed his entire worldview--were largely free of complexity and nuance, and he was of course also the most famous victim of Alzheimer's.


reply posted on 23-12-2007 @ 09:44 AM by ChiKeyMonKey
reply to post by gottago



Not so sure Terry Pratchett would agree...

Pratchett has Alzheimer's

There's always something that's going to bugger that curve... Right?

Personally where I am I find that the Gen Pop is getting more intelligent (academically) although holding an intelligent conversation with people is still very hard work, and finding anyone with any kind of opinion is dammed near impossible.

MonKey


reply posted on 23-12-2007 @ 10:21 AM by dampnickers
reply to post by ChiKeyMonKey



I'd have to agree with you on that point. Although, it is not just that people do not have an opinion. It is more likely that they are too afraid of venturing an opinion in case they fall foul of some "politically correct" law or "thought crime". The governments of this world have set up so many of these, that it is either impossible to venture an opinion, or very unwise. Which, to me, seems to be another step in dumbing us down; for if the parents of this world do not venture an opinion, their children do not learn how to because they have never experienced it. Incidentally most of the things we learn about life are from our parents.

To comment on something someone said about "STOOOPID" people and their behaviour... I am furious that we are being taught that these people can never be civilised. I learned a very valuable lesson recently. One that we should all learn ourselves.

My son is four. He knows how to read. He behaves like an angel (most of the time). He behaves so well because more often than not his nose is in a book. When he isn't reading his thougts are reasoned, and logical, we even have discussions about regulators on steam engines...!!! Quite the feat for a FOUR-YEAR-OLD, wouldn't you agree?

Now the magical part of what I just said is that unruly children in school tend to misbehave and because they do not understand what is going on around them. Either because they cannot read, cannot see the board, or simply do not understand anything of what the teacher is droning on about. As such, like all children exhibiting a natural instinct, they misbehave to get some attention. The trouble is that teachers do not see that the attention seeking behaviour is not the child being naughty, simply that the child needs assistance and does not know how to ask for it. Hence the "misbehaviour". The way to correct this? Get them to read. When a child reads, they learn something very important. Analytical skills. Couple that with help from a "good" teacher, parents and the community at large, and they become model pupils.

How do I know this works? I've tried it on my son and my family tries it on my nieces and nephews. My niece is five... she is a little angel too. My nephew is almost four. He was a little scroat! At least until his parents started to teach him to read. Now he regularly gets a book from the shelf, and asks his parents to read to him. He loves books about trains just like my son, and even asks questions about what is read to him. My son asked me this morning how an electric engine gets the power from the wires above into the engine...

My own father used the same techniques on me. When I had just turned four (according to my mother), I was at nursery overlooking the harbour where my father was manuvering a passenger ship out into the sea. The teacher asked me if my "daddy was reversing the ship?". Apparently my reply was that she was "stupid" and that my "father was using his 'bow thrust' to get out"...

Not made up, all of it true.

So, in short, reading works. Not just for "STOOOPID" people, but us so-called intelligent types too.


reply posted on 23-12-2007 @ 10:58 AM by dampnickers
reply to post by kangjia57



"Their" brains are not thick, it is that they are not yet honed into the fine thinking machines that they should be.

The way "we" get into them, is by being logical and reasoned. Sensible and calm. Never loosing our temper with these people and talking to them. Showing them, by whatever means available to us, that reading is important.

Most people think that a good "education" is required to get a good job in this world. What very few of us seem to realise is that a good education means being able to read and have some idea of the world around us... not being able to regurgitate what some teacher put on the board twenty years ago.

Until a very recent career change, I worked in a school. I didn't get my job because of fancy qualifications, or a "good education". I got the job (and was told so by the panel that picked me) becuase I have a good knowledge of the world around me, also that I am logical and reasoned too. I have these skills, because I read.

Plain and simple. Read... if people see you reading they are more likely to pick up a book and read themselves. Try it. My son watches me read all the time, when he sees me reading, he gets his books and mimics me... the difference between him and other children his age, is that he can read for himself. Not only is he intelligent, but because he can read he is a very independant toddler.

Need I say more?



reply posted on 23-12-2007 @ 02:00 PM by dampnickers
reply to post by infinite



Just because the eductation system teaches "restrictively" does not mean to say that we cannot combat it.

Again, I will say this: Lead by example!

People are like sheep, but only to a point. For those of us who are more enlightened, we do not tend to go out and buy the latest playstation or Wii, just because the next door neighbour has one. We tend to think things through, and be a little more conservative with consumerism. (At least this describes me).

The point is, if we encourage those around us to learn, and develop their skills, by reading etc. then it will not be long before they reach a tipping point and have their "eyes opened" to the system of things.

My father taught me that thinking and learning are two very important things. Both of these feed into my language skills, which allows me to be successful in life (socially, mentally, physically, etc.). I'm teaching my young son the same values and I will do the same with any other children I may have in the future.

These are the things we should all be doing. I hate to say this, but a great many of you here will simply read this and do nothing...

So what will you do? Learn for yourself, and teach others around you to do the same, or do you intend to be one of the sheep who eventually amount to nothing...?

Something or nothing? Someone or noone?


reply posted on 23-12-2007 @ 04:11 PM by Conspiriology
Originally posted by Ancrom
it was only a matter of time .
modern medicine has allowed those
with defective genes to live long enough
to procreate, no offense but deliberately
putting flaws back into the gene pool is wrong.


reply to
post by infinite





How is it wrong? All we are going to do is die anyway. In the final analysis, what difference does it make when your dead how smart you were when you were alive or that you ever existed at all?

Who can make such a judgement call as to whose genes are "worthy" of procreation and whose are not? Anyone who has ever attempted such grand agendas as "social shot gun weddings" in attempts to keep the gene pool healthy has always led to a people with a name like "Inbred Jed"
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