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Dysgenics: Dumbing down of society.

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posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 10:34 AM
Modern Signs that IDIOCRACY is becoming a reality

This is not just an American problem, but a problem for the Western World.

Dysgenics means:

Dysgenics is a term applied by some researchers to describe the evolutionary weakening of a population of organisms relative to their environment, often due to relaxation of natural selection or the occurrence of negative selection. ...


Many philosophical beings believe there is an effort to "dumb down" society. Television shows repeatedly promote "celebrities" who are famous for nothing and seem to lack any intelligence at all. Reality TV stars in the UK fail to know who Tony Blair was, anything related to the UK or even our national history (Big Brother star: Who's Shakespeare?). This "Big Brother generation" is in danger of becoming very unintelligent to previous generations.

Recently, the band Korn released a single which highlighted dysgenics and titled the track evolution

The video is very smart in the message. Especially pointing out the decline in the national average IQ. Television is in danger of making the population stupid and dependent on what to do in the life (where to eat, buy and even vote for).

As a people, we are in danger of declining as a civilisation if we do not act soon.

[edit on 22-12-2007 by infinite]

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 10:44 AM
Good find! I'm saving that link.

A stupid population is easier to control. In the past it was done by keeping people illiterate. Today it's done by keeping people occupied with utter rubbish. Less resistance that way.

Turn off your prolefeed, people.

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Beachcoma
A stupid population is easier to control. In the past it was done by keeping people illiterate. Today it's done by keeping people occupied with utter rubbish. Less resistance that way.

Yeah, totally agree.

I mean, how many turn out now in the Western World to vote in general elections? the UK has gone from a 80% average down to 65% within a decade. The US gets poor turnout too.

More people in the UK vote for reality TV shows than in a general election

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 11:06 AM
reply to post by infinite

It's not just the western world. I fear it's starting to happen here in my country, too. This fascination for reality programs over current affairs. The people here mostly aren't even aware of their basic rights or even traffic laws. Driving in this country is a nightmare (but I hear it's worse in India).

Doesn't help that most of our TV programmes come from the West... but even local shows are getting more retarded by the minute. Hopefully the 'Asian over-achieving' factor balances out things, but at the moment the prognosis isn't good.

The government starts a lot of programs to get us more in-tune with the new IT or knowledge-based economy, but there isn't much of a follow-up done. Government web-sites here are a complete joke. The only efficient website they have is the Inland Revenue Board website (go figure

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 03:15 PM
Here in Nova Scotia we get a lot of exchange students from South America- I've gotten to know a lot of them fairly well. They all seem to think, for the most part, that our school system is a joke.
Koreans are the same way.
I'm not sure what American schools are like, but, I'd hate to think that the education I'm getting is sub-par to that of many other countries.

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 03:36 PM
From researching into this field, i'm starting to believe David Icke when he was discussing the power of the television and it's ability to think for us

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 08:40 PM
"The quiet war has begun, with silent weapons.... and the newest slavery is to keep the people poor, and stupid.... Norvus Ordo Seclurum....... (SP?)

Megadeth, United Abominations....... Check it out

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 10:42 PM
A lot of people aren't too smart. Maybe they can't help it.

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 10:52 PM
I had posted a thread on here about people not using language to the best of their ability. I was lambasted because I had apparently not taken into account the "foreign" visitors to this site...

Yet, my point was that for those of us born into the English language we should do all we can to learn and use the most powerful tool we have - our voice.

The more articulate we are, the more reasoned our arguments or even discussions can be.

Alas I was again lambasted, for even suggesting this, by some of our members.

We really do need to wake up to the fact that our children are being dumbed down, and it will only get worse as time goes on.

The proof I saw was that a sixteen year old acquaintance of mine didn't know what the word "statistic" meant... and this was a teenager expected to get A's in his exams!!!

Need I say more?

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 11:03 PM
reply to post by pc is here

Rubbish! People are only as "smart" as they allow themselves to be. I read, a LOT, which allows me to learn about the world around me. It gives me a good base from which to draw conclusions about life, people, and so on.

Reading many different things, from as many points of view as possible gives a balanced perspective and allows you to draw reasonable conclusions based not just on what you have read, but from your own personal experiences too....

A school I once worked at taught its children to get their information from the internet in order to complete projects. The children were tasked with using Google (they were not told that there are other more appropriate search engines out there), and then to use wikipedia to get information... Almost as if Wiki is the only encyclopaedia or source of information on the planet.

Not only are the children being taught to be lazy (and thus STOOOPID), the teachers in the classrooms are being lazy, and trained in the art of being lazy - either that or they are too busy trying to fulfil their target grade requirements.

My mother was told, a long time ago, by our doctor that my younger brother was unlikely to ever achieve anything as he is medically STOOOPID. Yet, he is one of the most intelligent people I know. Why? He reads. He learns, and does not stop learning new things. His mind is always active. His passion is World War II. There is not a thing about the causes, actions, events and so on about that time in history that he does not know. He uses that knowledge to relate to current events. It gives him a keen mind. It also means he is not STOOOPID. I never see him watching television, but always reading a book or an article on the web.

My hat goes off to him because he is supposed to be "challenged" but he never gives up, and fights to be brainy like the rest of us...

It seems to me that people are being taught to be simple mindless automatons. That way, when the death squads start to round people up, no one will question, or resist. They will all be too STOOOOPID!

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 11:43 PM
it was only a matter of time .
modern medicine has allowed those
with defective genes to live long enough
to procreate, no offense but deliberately
putting flaws back into the gene pool is wrong.

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posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 12:35 AM

Originally posted by Dewm0nster
Here in Nova Scotia we get a lot of exchange students from South America- I've gotten to know a lot of them fairly well. They all seem to think, for the most part, that our school system is a joke.
Koreans are the same way.
I'm not sure what American schools are like, but, I'd hate to think that the education I'm getting is sub-par to that of many other countries.

As a new immigrant to Ontario I was shocked to learn that 50% is passing in school here. That is absolutely laughable! I don't know if the standards are as low in your province, but if they are then yes, your school system is, as you said, a joke. I went to school in the US and even though we're told that our school system leaves much to be desired as well, anything below 70% was an F, and you had to have 77% to pass to the next level of class.

posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 12:35 AM
The first thing which comes to mind when reading this thread is the movie Idiocracy. I would certainly recommend it to those who have not seen it. The premise is that an average joe is involved in an experiment which causes him hibernate for hundreds of years only to wake up to learn that he is now the smartest person on the planet. This film was actually shelved by Fox for some reason and went straight to video, probably in part because it shows what is actually already happening to the population. Another good point is brought up by this movie, in that people with intelligence and the means to provide for children often wait to have children or have only a few children while people with no money pop out tons of kids (also shown in the Korn video). Anyway, just wanted to recommend the movie. If you really want to see how true this is just go to Walmart and you'll see where we, as a population, are currently headed.

posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 12:47 AM
I agree with a majority of the people hear about how society is conforming us to become less intelligent and such. I wholeheartedly agree. I too am a voracious reader, mainly about politics and economics and partaking in this commuity on ATS has further created a burgeoning force of knowledge.

Though there is a problem with all this; i think our IQ and such really depends on what resources we have at hand, the family unit, curiosity, friends, and economic situation. There is so much more too; its hard for us to formulate a clear answer because there are ever evolving varialbes we have to consider, and there arent enough resources to figure this out. Thats the major fallacy i have with this sort of thing.

But then again, its really doesnt matter. Like others have said, our Govs. have dumbed us down, our school systems are lacking, we honor false gods who are worthless to the core (celebrities and pop...people...stars..) etc. I fear for the future, and weep for my generation. Everyone on ATS is going to have to accept my apology on behalf of my future peers of my generation, who may destroy this world. I dont see people getting smarter anyday i'll just sit back and watch the carnage. Tsk Tsk, if only 2012 were to become a reality now, i might gain some hope.

posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 03:55 AM
We're not only being dumbed down, but we are being drugged by Phamachy world, and our food supply seems to be being degraded. Not to go into other topics, but you can see how all this stuff might be part of a larger plan.

I was thinking to myself just hours ago about us being "exterminated." Is it extermination? Is it control? Could it be either of these or even both?

To get back on topic, and I say this a lot; when was the last time you were told to look in a dictionary when you were at school? I mean I didn't have an instant understanding of every word in the dictionary when I was born. Learning to use a dictionary is one of the basic fundamentals of learning. People are being shoved through school and they don't know what the hell going on a good part of the time.

A man is a cripple in this world if he doesn't understand the world and people around him. The world around him is spitting lots and lots of information to him in the form of words. I'm sure this creates a lot of confusion for some people who don't understand those words.

Yes, US schools are not that great. The focus sometimes seems to be on controling your child and keeping them "quite and well-behaved" in class.

The solution to "problematic" children isn't to straighten out their confusions and problems, but to be sent to the Psych department and get put on medication.


posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 04:22 AM
I'm going to use bad words here " THE BELL CURVE ". Statistically, a girl with a PhD in chemistry has fewer kids than a girl who can't spell chemistry. Statistically stupid people reach sexual maturity earlier and breed more than smart people ( and this applies within a racial group, without recourse to the exciting comparisons between racial groups that all right-thinking persons avoid ). Now, here, I have to either speculate or hypothesize, watch me now, don't look honey, tell me when it's over... the reason why intelligence was not selected against and bred out of the species was that intelligence carried with it better killing skills, and since murder is quicker than childraising (not an anti-abortion remark ) the intelligent were able to outkill the breeders faster than the breeders could outreproduce the intelligent. ( This is of course crudely oversimplified, crass social Darwinism, and more appropriate to a less-enlightened age when people didn't know enough to appreciate the contributions of non-contributors ). Currently of course in most nations murder is illegal and breeding is not, and this, together with such policies as progressive taxation and national health insurance ( poor people are stupid, stupid people are poor ) does tend to exert a dysgenic effect. But I think this is a problem that takes care of itself, because as the unsuitable proliferate, society falls apart, somebody knocks the power plants off of the end table, then there is no law, everything gets mean, and intelligence reasserts itself. Boy I just said so many true things now I feel dirty.

posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 04:23 AM
reply to post by dampnickers

Quite agree with you; the use of language is indeed a strong indicator of intelligence: long-term studies of nuns have shown that the complexity of one's written language skills has an inverse correlation to one's susceptibility to Alzheimer's in later life. Simply put, the better your writing skills, the less chance you have of dementia in old age.

posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 04:36 AM
You can't really check the integrity of the population sample of this video, but I'd hope they weren't typical.

posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 04:41 AM

Originally posted by gottago
Simply put, the better your writing skills, the less chance you have of dementia in old age.

Do you have a link for that? I'm quite interested in knowing more about it.

posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 05:07 AM
reply to post by Gun Totin Gerbil

No, that video is another good point, so is the one of the US beauty Queen on why Americans can't find themselves on the map (apparently, she is a smart girl).

But, have notice how our politicans talk to us like we are children?

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