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Topic started on 28-11-2007 @ 01:49 AM by ATSMIX

Show 42 – Shirley MacLaine Interview


Dave Rabbit goes one on one with Hollywood Legend, Author and Actress, Shirley MacLaine. Among the numerous subjects that Dave and Shirley talk about, they include UFO’s over Washington DC, President Jimmy Carter, Souls Of Animals, Spirituality, The Sumerian Tables, Synchronicity and her two weeks with Alien Abductee Billy Meier. This is a wonderful, down to earth exploration of body, mind and spirit with the captain of this ship, Shirley MacLaine.

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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 10:00 AM by yeahright
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Just listened to it. She's a very impressive, sharp lady. Dave, I think you did a great job on that one.



reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:21 PM by Dave Rabbit
reply to post by Myrtales Instinct



I keep telling Skeptic.. we need an additional line on the avatars that shows pronunciation.

Dave



reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:47 PM by stevworthy
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Hey this is a really great interview. I wish she could have elaborated more on her 2 weeks spent with Billy Meier, but maybe there's more material on her website. I think she's a spokesman with influence who can always help the disclosure movement, I hope.


reply posted on 29-11-2007 @ 08:06 PM by davidbiedny
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Neato, Daddy-O. I can't wait to hear you "go in-depth" on the Meier hoa..., I mean, case. Should be a GREAT show! Can't wait! EXCELLENT STUFF! Coolio! I look forward to your RESEARCH! Have a slice of WEDDING CAKE! Say hello to SHIRLEY! She's GREAT!


dB


reply posted on 2-12-2007 @ 05:16 AM by emanresui
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this is really turning out to be a great site for me ...learned about mcclaine? accidentally. but astrange thuoght just cropped...what happens when an independant investigation produces widely acceptable evidencesssss before disclosure occurs? without some real convincing explaination id bet my last real tooth that...HEADS ARE GOING TO ROLL!!!




reply posted on 3-12-2007 @ 01:55 PM by Dave Rabbit
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Hey David....

You have a STANDING INVITATION to put your thoughts and beliefs up for member scrutiny any time on the ATS MIX Show.

One thing I have learned in two years here on ATS is that I don't care who you are, there are ALWAYS going to be folks that think you are NUTS or that what you SAY or BELIEVE is a

hoa..., I mean, case


Like I said brother..... ready when you are! I'll even put up a thread in the GUEST FORUM for members to pose questions to you before we do your show.

So.... do you ACCEPT MY INVITATION? Then we can ask the membership what they think of your opinions and positions.

Dave

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reply posted on 4-12-2007 @ 06:58 AM by davidbiedny
Dave,

We've had extensive coverage of the Meier stuff on The Paracast, where I did an analysis of an image provided by the US Meier person. It was easy to determine that it was a fabricated image. One could take any number of the pictures and easily show them to be fabricated - the gold wedding cake photos are a perfect example - my girlfriend's children looked at them and laughed. Some of my friends in the FX biz looked at them and wondered why ANYONE would think that they were anything but miniatures, poorly done fakes. Dave, I would ask you to look at the cake/tree/car image and proclaim them as a photo of life-sized objects. They're not, it's really that simple. And it's not like I'm the only person to think that this is the case - there are extensive online resources that come to the same exact conclusion.

Jeff Ritzmann has also put in his share of hard work to debunk any number of Meier pictures, and I originally met Jeff thrugh ATS while going up against the Meierites. If you - or anyone else - reads through the corresponding thread on The Paracast forums, it's rather disturbing to see how the US rep for this nonsense lost it online, and how I caught him red-handed in a game of deception and outright lies. I personally followed up with some of the people who he uses as expert references, and they either denied ever having talked to him or wanted nothing to do with him in any shape or form. Jeff R. also did extensive follow ups with some of the other folks the US rep mentioned, only to have the same responses. We did the hard work of verifying the claims of the rep, and found him to be a pathological liar. He makes money from this hoax, so his motivations are quite clear. There's a thread here on ATS where he clearly demonstrated his lying, abusive nature.

We've done a LOT of work pointing out all the problems with the Meier situation, and the fact that they are a pseudo-religious cult masquerading as a UFO case. I don't really care about them, outside of the fact that they take away from legitimate UFO cases, and tarnish the field in general. It's difficult to get the mainstream to take UFOs seriously - the recent D. Kucinich situation is a great example - and the Meier crap really harms the field in a serious way. Ritzmann & I are both experiencers who are also skeptical about some of the more outrageous claims in the UFO and paranormal fields, and are trying to find some genuine insights and answers. We've taken heat from both sides of the fence because of our stance, but that's OK, as long as we can get one millimeter closer to the truth. The Meier crap is a thorn in the side of serious UFO research, and keeps popping back up like a smelly zombie. New generations of people keep finding this turkey and bringing it up, and it's really harmful to the pursuit of genuine understanding of the highly complex - and extremely important - UFO phenomenon.

So as far as your invitation to put even more time and effort into refuting the Meier nonsense, I'll have to decline. Jeff & I have already done this, Dave, and neither of us will entertain any further back-and-forth on it. There are much more interesting cases to consider in the UFO field, and it's really time to put the Meier hoax to rest. If you want to believe in it, well, that's certainly your prerogative. Personally, as I've stated more than a few times on The Paracast, I have little use for beliefs - people can believe in anything, regardless of how nonsensical or ridiculous it is. I'm interested in understanding and knowledge, and these are only gained through careful research and logical thinking. My professional background is in image processing, and from that POV, I have shown why the Meier images are, in my professional opinion, fabricated. There is no reason to beat this horse any further, it's as dead as a doornail.

dB

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