Satellite Data Shows Temps FALLING Since 1998, declining to 1983 levels...

Satellite Data Shows Temps FALLING Since 1998, declining to 1983 levels...

www.telegraph.co.uk

The scare over global warming, and our politicians' response to it, is becoming ever more bizarre. On the one hand we have the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change coming up with yet another of its notoriously politicised reports, hyping up the scare by claiming that world surface temperatures have been higher in 11 of the past 12 years (1995-2006) than ever previously recorded.

This carefully ignores the latest US satellite figures showing temperatures having fallen since 1998, declining in 2007 to a 1983 level - not to mention the newly revised figures for US surface temperatures showing that the 1930s had four of the 10 warmest years of the past century, with the hottest year of all being not 1998, as was previously claimed, but 1934.

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[edit on 26-11-2007 by BlueRidge]

I don't think any single post will change a persons mind concerning global warming due to it being almost a religion to some.



www.telegraph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

reply to post by BlueRidge


could you post a link to the scientific study christopher booker,the journalist, en.wikipedia.org...

is getting his data from?

Originally posted by BlueRidge
The scare over global warming... blah blah ...hyping up the scare by claiming that world surface temperatures have been higher in 11 of the past 12 years (1995-2006) than ever previously recorded.

This carefully ignores the latest US satellite figures showing temperatures having fallen since 1998, declining in 2007 to a 1983 level - not to mention the newly revised figures for US surface temperatures... yadda yadda...

When US = world, this journo might have a point.



[edit on 26-11-2007 by melatonin]

reply to post by melatonin


south eastern usa

Yes. Global surface temperatures have increased about 0.6°C (plus or minus 0.2°C) since the late-19th century, and about 0.4°F (0.2 to 0.3°C) over the past 25 years (the period with the most credible data). The warming has not been globally uniform. Some areas (including parts of the southeastern U.S.) have, in fact, cooled over the last century. The recent warmth has been greatest over North America and Eurasia between 40 and 70°N. Warming, assisted by the record El Niño of 1997-1998, has continued right up to the present, with 2001 being the second warmest year on record after 1998.

www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

[edit on 26-11-2007 by welivefortheson]

reply to post by welivefortheson


Aye, you know what they say about statistics.

Even if we take the surface data from 1998 onwards and assess the trend, it is still upwards for the NASA GISS data.



1998 was a big anomaly, and enables deniers a cherrytree of rich pickings, but only when no stats are applied.



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reply to post by melatonin


yup,i believe 98 was so freakish because of this,

www.dbc.uci.edu...

id like to add theirs a solar maximum and an el nino predicted for 2011,hold on to your hats people!!.

[edit on 26-11-2007 by welivefortheson]

A : 1998 was an anomaly, the temperatures are clearly higher since then.

and B : Since when did a survey of part of the US mean the rest of the world was following the same temperatures?


Clearly this news broadcast has a bias for a reason. I'm not sure who funded it, but it neglects alot of data... namely, the rest of the data from the rest of the world.

reply to post by johnsky


The Telegraph is one of the few papers in the UK which takes a hard-line denier POV on climate change. They give a platform for the likes of Bob Carter and Christopher Monckton. It's also a right-wing/conservative paper.

i just thought i would poste the temprature messuarements from Denmark from the year 1873 - 2006.
since you seem to rely on american and english weather reports here, I suggest people from around the globe, post links to ther national weather institutes, to make a full picture.

the site is the Danish wearther institute, just scroll down a little to see the graf.

Danish weather Temparature

This is excellent news. So the planet isn't warming. Sweet! Now, who goes and tells all the ice shelves, polar caps and Antarctica to stop melting? They clearly aren't paying attention to the data.

reply to post by Bluess


Good idea.

Although with data only from 1930 to 2005, here is a page from the Portuguese meteorologic institute that shows the temperature variation.

Portuguese temperature change

Here's Canada's data.

Canadian Climate Reports

We're on the up and up as well.
At the moment here in Ottawa, our yearly average is 10 degrees C higher than it should be.

Thats... pretty freaking hot!

That would probably have ha todo with air pollutants which caused global dimming and made the amount of sunlight reaching the earth's surface fall. Once we cleared up the air pollutants temperatures began to rise faster. After 9/11 a study showed that on the days the planes were grounded temperatures rose.

The oil is running out :
www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net...
www.time.com...

In July 2006, the world's oil rigs pumped out crude at a rate of nearly 85.5 million bbl. a day. They haven't come close since, even as prices have risen from $75 to $98 per bbl. Which raises a question of potentially epochal significance: Is it all downhill from here?

Governments need to make people consume less - they say "to stop global warming". The reality is that they cannot just say the truth - the result of people knowing that there is no nice future for them would be anarchy