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Topic started on 26-11-2007 @ 06:53 PM by BlueRidge

Satellite Data Shows Temps FALLING Since 1998, declining to 1983 levels...


www.telegraph.co.uk
The scare over global warming, and our politicians' response to it, is becoming ever more bizarre. On the one hand we have the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change coming up with yet another of its notoriously politicised reports, hyping up the scare by claiming that world surface temperatures have been higher in 11 of the past 12 years (1995-2006) than ever previously recorded.

This carefully ignores the latest US satellite figures showing temperatures having fallen since 1998, declining in 2007 to a 1983 level - not to mention the newly revised figures for US surface temperatures showing that the 1930s had four of the 10 warmest years of the past century, with the hottest year of all being not 1998, as was previously claimed, but 1934.
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reply posted on 26-11-2007 @ 07:01 PM by welivefortheson
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could you post a link to the scientific study christopher booker,the journalist, en.wikipedia.org...

is getting his data from?



reply posted on 26-11-2007 @ 07:27 PM by welivefortheson
reply to post by melatonin



south eastern usa


Yes. Global surface temperatures have increased about 0.6°C (plus or minus 0.2°C) since the late-19th century, and about 0.4°F (0.2 to 0.3°C) over the past 25 years (the period with the most credible data). The warming has not been globally uniform. Some areas (including parts of the southeastern U.S.) have, in fact, cooled over the last century. The recent warmth has been greatest over North America and Eurasia between 40 and 70°N. Warming, assisted by the record El Niño of 1997-1998, has continued right up to the present, with 2001 being the second warmest year on record after 1998.

www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

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reply posted on 26-11-2007 @ 07:37 PM by melatonin
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Aye, you know what they say about statistics.

Even if we take the surface data from 1998 onwards and assess the trend, it is still upwards for the NASA GISS data.



1998 was a big anomaly, and enables deniers a cherrytree of rich pickings, but only when no stats are applied.



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reply posted on 26-11-2007 @ 07:53 PM by welivefortheson
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yup,i believe 98 was so freakish because of this,

www.dbc.uci.edu...

id like to add theirs a solar maximum and an el nino predicted for 2011,hold on to your hats people!!.

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reply posted on 26-11-2007 @ 08:08 PM by melatonin
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The Telegraph is one of the few papers in the UK which takes a hard-line denier POV on climate change. They give a platform for the likes of Bob Carter and Christopher Monckton. It's also a right-wing/conservative paper.


reply posted on 27-11-2007 @ 04:18 PM by ArMaP
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Good idea.

Although with data only from 1930 to 2005, here is a page from the Portuguese meteorologic institute that shows the temperature variation.

Portuguese temperature change


reply posted on 27-11-2007 @ 04:30 PM by johnsky
Here's Canada's data.

Canadian Climate Reports

We're on the up and up as well.
At the moment here in Ottawa, our yearly average is 10 degrees C higher than it should be.

Thats... pretty freaking hot!


reply posted on 27-11-2007 @ 06:18 PM by pai mei
The oil is running out :
www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net...
www.time.com...
In July 2006, the world's oil rigs pumped out crude at a rate of nearly 85.5 million bbl. a day. They haven't come close since, even as prices have risen from $75 to $98 per bbl. Which raises a question of potentially epochal significance: Is it all downhill from here?



Governments need to make people consume less - they say "to stop global warming". The reality is that they cannot just say the truth - the result of people knowing that there is no nice future for them would be anarchy

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